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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
10/31/2021 12:09 PM
On defense Thibs is letting guys who can shoot like Kemba stop and pop. It’s quite simple
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ramtour420
Posts: 26258 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
10/31/2021 9:24 PM LAST EDITED: 10/31/2021 9:26 PM
I was very critical of him last season. This time around I am stunned. Thibs abandoned the "limit # of possessions per game" approach and we are off and running this season. It's really a 180 degrees type of turnaround.
The great part is that it's working like a charm. We have one of the best offenses in the league. Also, just like was said before, our playbook has gotten a lot more diverse. It's so refreshing to see plays like "give and go" between RJ and Randle Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22403 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
11/1/2021 8:45 AM
I won't be happy until Robinson has a 20 point night
 So far，so good. |
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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
11/1/2021 9:36 AM
gradyandrew wrote:I won't be happy until Robinson has a 20 point night I love it when Mitch puts up 11 and 17 because that means we probably win |
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VDesai
Posts: 42612 Alba Posts: 44 Joined: 10/28/2003 Member: #477 USA |
11/1/2021 10:14 AM
Yes, its all good and I love the free flow. But when we're up by 10 with a 3 mins to go can we milk some clock and make the other team work? Been nearly 3 times now where we put the game way with one basket/one stop based on where the clock/score was, and we found ourselves in a tie or one possession game. My only criticism is to have an end game system so we don't blow leads. Been scary when we give up a ton of points in a few mins.
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
11/1/2021 10:52 AM
VDesai wrote:Yes, its all good and I love the free flow. But when we're up by 10 with a 3 mins to go can we milk some clock and make the other team work? Been nearly 3 times now where we put the game way with one basket/one stop based on where the clock/score was, and we found ourselves in a tie or one possession game. My only criticism is to have an end game system so we don't blow leads. Been scary when we give up a ton of points in a few mins. Some of you question why Thibs tends to play his starter when the game looks to be in hand, and thibs has responded on several occasions that the 3 ball and the pace of the game makes it almost impossible to think a 12 point lead can't vanish in 2 minutes. ES
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Moonangie
Posts: 24765 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
11/1/2021 11:06 AM
knicks1248 wrote:VDesai wrote:Yes, its all good and I love the free flow. But when we're up by 10 with a 3 mins to go can we milk some clock and make the other team work? Been nearly 3 times now where we put the game way with one basket/one stop based on where the clock/score was, and we found ourselves in a tie or one possession game. My only criticism is to have an end game system so we don't blow leads. Been scary when we give up a ton of points in a few mins. This is so true...pace, D and 3s change that equation unless you're truly blowing out your opponent and they're too psyched out or too inexperienced to retrench. Ws are what we want. We have depth. |
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VDesai
Posts: 42612 Alba Posts: 44 Joined: 10/28/2003 Member: #477 USA |
11/1/2021 11:17 AM
Not easy to change play style, but they need to change the pace/make it harder to let a team come back. To me that starts with a PG and Rose is our only PG capable of orchestrating the pace of the game and executing- so my view is he should be out there at the end. We'll see how that continues, but its been a perfect storm of us doing everything wrong at the end of the game, but doing just enough to not lose.
-Fouling the opponent, stopping the clock and giving away pts To me a PG like Rose helps matters on a number of those issues around managing the clock and O - he is also a good playmaker/ballhandler/FT shooter for end game situations. |
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
11/1/2021 1:34 PM
We're still towards the bottom of the league as far as pace, but we're bottom half defensively this year, even though our net rating is top 6.
We were 18th last year at % of points coming from 3. Now we are first. So much for Thibs not being adaptable. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53804 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/1/2021 2:23 PM
VDesai wrote:Yes, its all good and I love the free flow. But when we're up by 10 with a 3 mins to go can we milk some clock and make the other team work? Been nearly 3 times now where we put the game way with one basket/one stop based on where the clock/score was, and we found ourselves in a tie or one possession game. My only criticism is to have an end game system so we don't blow leads. Been scary when we give up a ton of points in a few mins.there was a play where Kemba took a quick 3 with 20 on the shot clock. Its a shot he was hitting but its bad situational basketball. When you are up a dozen with 3 minutes you must take 20 seconds off the clock. Its like how sports works. Unless its a clear path dunk type of thing you dont take a shot early in the clock there, you just dont (still love Kemba, make no mistake) "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27950 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
11/1/2021 6:12 PM
fishmike wrote:We have a real odd (but good) mix of players in some ways. Our PGs are older but incredibly shifty players... both past their prime but capable of being throwback flamethrowers. The platoon is looking great. Do you remember all the threads before PJ was hired where some of us wanted Thinlbs and so many said he would not work on NY. Ah the memories. Fact is he is a defensive coach but so much more. As we see with Taj and Rose he geta the most out of guys he is loyal to. Also noticing he builds loyalty with new players. Liked how he kept Walker in the game against the Pels. Showed he will go with the hot hand and will show loyalty to those playing well. Not just "his" guys. Really like how well we are playing and how seamless the additions have fit in. Also think we will continue to improve with Noel returning, Burks getting back to level he was playing last year and IQ getting out of his slump. Also think Obi will continue to be a bigger part of the plan. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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