Philc1 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Last year we started off 5-8 throughout 13 games and still ended up as a 4 seed.

This year we're already at 6-3 after 9 games.

Some of you guys throughout this thread have no idea on how much we've improved from last year in terms of how many wins we're going to have this year.

If we don't finish with 60 wins it's going to become a horse race until the end 56-57-58 wins etc but imo we're going to put up 60+ wins and why? Because this NY team is super deep and imo the most talent since dating back to the 1990s.

All true but the East is better this year

And so are the Knicks.

We're 7-4 and last year started off 5-6 after 11 games.

So lets not talk about the East being better without mentioning how the Knicks are also a better team.

Brooklyn (without Kyrie Irving).
Milwaukee.
Atlanta.
Boston.

None of these 4 teams are better than last year.

Once our Defense gets going this is a top 1-2 seed Knicks team. Imo.

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And MYmentality is the beloved leader?

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Last year we started off 5-8 throughout 13 games and still ended up as a 4 seed.

This year we're already at 6-3 after 9 games.

Some of you guys throughout this thread have no idea on how much we've improved from last year in terms of how many wins we're going to have this year.

If we don't finish with 60 wins it's going to become a horse race until the end 56-57-58 wins etc but imo we're going to put up 60+ wins and why? Because this NY team is super deep and imo the most talent since dating back to the 1990s.

All true but the East is better this year

And so are the Knicks.

We're 7-4 and last year started off 5-6 after 11 games.

So lets not talk about the East being better without mentioning how the Knicks are also a better team.

Brooklyn (without Kyrie Irving).
Milwaukee.
Atlanta.
Boston.

None of these 4 teams are better than last year.

Once our Defense gets going this is a top 1-2 seed Knicks team. Imo.

Jetnation is the North Korea of football messageboards

And MYmentality is the beloved leader?

No he got banned for saying something on Twitter about a TE that got cut that wasn’t even bad. I was banned for being right about Zach Wilson

Thats it? Because you disagreed? He was banned for Tweeting? Not for some exuberant rah rah narrative thing?

With wins vs. both Orlando and Houston?

2021-2022 Knicks will be 10-6 (after our first 16 games).

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 Knicks were 10-6 (after their first 16 games).

With wins vs. both Orlando and Houston?

2021-2022 Knicks will be 10-6 (after our first 16 games).

Record might be the same, but I'm sure the starting 5 in 92 had more chemistry than 2021 starting 5. Until we fix that issue, we are a 500 team unfortunately. Todays game will tell us a lot about this starting 5, including Fournier who has been so bad, I dropped him in my fantasy league.

A .500 team?

There are 15 .500 and below teams, and fortunately; these Knicks aren't one of them.

Take care of business vs. both Orlando and Houston and we'll be at 10-6 overall and 4 games above .500 moving forward; which will give NY a top 10 NBA record heading into Chicago (who we're 1-0 against].

NYKMentality wrote:

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 Knicks were 10-6 (after their first 16 games).

With wins vs. both Orlando and Houston?

2021-2022 Knicks will be 10-6 (after our first 16 games).

Record might be the same, but I'm sure the starting 5 in 92 had more chemistry than 2021 starting 5. Until we fix that issue, we are a 500 team unfortunately. Todays game will tell us a lot about this starting 5, including Fournier who has been so bad, I dropped him in my fantasy league.

A .500 team?

There are 15 .500 and below teams, and fortunately; these Knicks aren't one of them.

Take care of business vs. both Orlando and Houston and we'll be at 10-6 overall and 4 games above .500 moving forward; which will give NY a top 10 NBA record heading into Chicago (who we're 1-0 against].

You right…they might be a below .500 team if we don’t figure out our starting 5 and 4th quarter rotation.

Nalod wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 Knicks were 10-6 (after their first 16 games).

With wins vs. both Orlando and Houston?

2021-2022 Knicks will be 10-6 (after our first 16 games).

Record might be the same, but I'm sure the starting 5 in 92 had more chemistry than 2021 starting 5. Until we fix that issue, we are a 500 team unfortunately. Todays game will tell us a lot about this starting 5, including Fournier who has been so bad, I dropped him in my fantasy league.

A .500 team?

There are 15 .500 and below teams, and fortunately; these Knicks aren't one of them.

Take care of business vs. both Orlando and Houston and we'll be at 10-6 overall and 4 games above .500 moving forward; which will give NY a top 10 NBA record heading into Chicago (who we're 1-0 against].

NYMentality is the Knicks KellyAnne Conway. Spin it.

We a game over .500. He prancing as we 4 over.
Not a person here wants it to NOT happen. We all want it.
But root in the moment. Team is not succeeding to its potential.
Why not enjoy the accomplishment rather than “Told you so”?
“Thrill of Victory” or the expectation of it?

I think back to the Chaney knicks - they were not good, but had some gamers and always put in the effort.

37 & 45 in 2002-3. That team was carried by Allan Houston. 82 games of grit.

I think they overachieved.

But it's hard to root for a team, and a franchise, that should do better than it does, than it has.

Last year was great. If this year isn't better- or the same- then it's a failure.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 Knicks were 10-6 (after their first 16 games).

With wins vs. both Orlando and Houston?

2021-2022 Knicks will be 10-6 (after our first 16 games).

Record might be the same, but I'm sure the starting 5 in 92 had more chemistry than 2021 starting 5. Until we fix that issue, we are a 500 team unfortunately. Todays game will tell us a lot about this starting 5, including Fournier who has been so bad, I dropped him in my fantasy league.

A .500 team?

There are 15 .500 and below teams, and fortunately; these Knicks aren't one of them.

Take care of business vs. both Orlando and Houston and we'll be at 10-6 overall and 4 games above .500 moving forward; which will give NY a top 10 NBA record heading into Chicago (who we're 1-0 against].

NYMentality is the Knicks KellyAnne Conway. Spin it.

We a game over .500. He prancing as we 4 over.
Not a person here wants it to NOT happen. We all want it.
But root in the moment. Team is not succeeding to its potential.
Why not enjoy the accomplishment rather than “Told you so”?
“Thrill of Victory” or the expectation of it?

I think back to the Chaney knicks - they were not good, but had some gamers and always put in the effort.

37 & 45 in 2002-3. That team was carried by Allan Houston. 82 games of grit.

I think they overachieved.

But it's hard to root for a team, and a franchise, that should do better than it does, than it has.

Last year was great. If this year isn't better- or the same- then it's a failure.

It could be. 15 games in. Things happen. Last year it was the Drose inclusion and his integration after a not so great start.
Can’t see it unfold does not mean it can’t happen. 5-1 happend to start.
We were told over and over by Vegas and others that we about a .500 team to start based on imporovement in the east, and while on paper better, not that much more. Unexpected can happen. Good and bad!

So maybe we are not as good. 15 games in. Bit early to call it.

SergioNYK wrote:I don't think any team is going to win 60 games. Those days are over with 'load management'. Golden State might have the best shot at it but they are already starting it with Curry and Green out tonight.

I'll be happy with a plus .500 record, top 6 East spot and being competitive in the playoffs. People forget it's just year two of this regime and we're two years removed from winning 21 games and three years removed from winning 17 games. You cannot expect instant results. Now by years four and five, I'm hoping we've upgraded the roster to a point where we can start realistically start talking 60 wins and going deep in the playoffs. But to expect it this season was kind of crazy.

Does 60 wins even really matter? We almost won a championship after barely getting the 8th seed once for cryin out loud