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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
10/18/2021 12:35 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? all right i stand corrected but that felt good anyway |
Nalod
Posts: 68624 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/18/2021 12:36 PM
January?
If you gonna harp on the endless Myles turner thing at least look at their roster, how many contracts they have. Look at the Salaries and our roster, and think what makes sense in a trade. Maybe even plagiarize someones else’s work as some form of viable trade scenario. Don’t forget his contract status, potential valuation, and risks to both teams. |
EwingsGlass
Posts: 26074 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
10/18/2021 12:43 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? Little aggressive. Robinson certainly didn't look ready to play 28 minutes. That said, I think some of the worst plays were where the defense failed to rotate or the opposing guard got a foot forward in a PnR. He didn't have the same bounce that he had in prior years. So much of this is analyzing a guy's first game back. He was sluggish most of the game. He acknowledged that himself - so this isn't a revelation or a condemnation. Its a work in process. I saw some real positive though. For instance. he made that 3/4 length outlet pass to Barrett. I saw him closing out to the three point line, even if he was a step slow. I saw him aggressive when he had the ball. I saw him bodying other players. Easily needs another 10 games to get back to form. Maybe needs a season to understand his new weight. I'm still a huge fan of his growth. This is the Randle.
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Nalod
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10/18/2021 12:51 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? that foot has to stay together!!!!! Wonder if we resign him? |
martin
Posts: 68530 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
10/18/2021 1:00 PM
At the end of the game Obi and Randle were going up against the stout front court of Daniel Gafford and Avdija while patrolling the paint again rim runners in Neto, KCP and Kispert?
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Nalod
Posts: 68624 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/18/2021 2:31 PM
martin wrote:At the end of the game Obi and Randle were going up against the stout front court of Daniel Gafford and Avdija while patrolling the paint again rim runners in Neto, KCP and Kispert? Martin, you with the details! Details matter? I get what Thibs does preseason. Just can't measure with being undefeated and not exactly against stellar comp. |
fishmike
Posts: 53115 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
10/18/2021 3:52 PM
martin wrote:At the end of the game Obi and Randle were going up against the stout front court of Daniel Gafford and Avdija while patrolling the paint again rim runners in Neto, KCP and Kispert?thats like the hoodrat chick you bang to build up your confidence before chasing the hot chick... "we can do this!" Bring on Dwight/AD/Bron "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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knicks1248
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10/18/2021 4:11 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? Growth? where exactly is the growth other than he stop committing silly fouls after 2 1/2 seasons. I like Mitch, but this dude has to ADAPT to todays game and the way it's played.. All he can do is dunk the ball.... maybe it's just my expectations, but I need to see more if im extending his contract. He was laboring down the court before the injury, and it's gotten worse for obvious reasons, he is usually the last guy down court on offense, the ball handler is usually 10 yards ahead of him, so forget about him on most fast breaks. You can't even run a baseline back door because he's already in the paint, so he it makes easy for his man to protect the penetration and keep a him at arms length. even on defense he was scared to come out and guard Harrell on the perimeter, because of fear of the blow by, so harrell drained a 15 footer right in his grill because he gave him 3 feet ES
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 26074 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
10/18/2021 4:39 PM
knicks1248 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? Growth - as in put on 30 lbs of muscle. Using this first game back to generalize about his overall skill set is just a waste of time. His conditioning is not there yet. I don't think you can extrapolate his performance for this season or his career based on this game. He was clearly sluggish and slow footed. He was chasing guards out to the perimeter all game. This is my point about the lack of defensive rotations (or communication). Robinson is chasing Beal to the 3pt line all day while the guards are getting lost on PnRs. He's pinning his man and no one is rotating to guard the 3 ball. Regardless - as a first game back, I am still encouraged. I think you are looking for reasons to knock the guy while I am happy he is on the court - something you said would not happen until January in other threads. This is the Randle.
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Jmpasq
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10/18/2021 6:39 PM LAST EDITED: 10/19/2021 5:41 AM
martin wrote:At the end of the game Obi and Randle were going up against the stout front court of Daniel Gafford and Avdija while patrolling the paint again rim runners in Neto, KCP and Kispert? You can get away with Obi at Center against the Wizards, run that line-up against the 76ers, Bucks, Bulls, Miami, Cavs or Hawks its a different animal all together. I did not like the Obi pick it all, but he has played really well this pre-season. The more good players we have, the better chance we can make a trade for an elite wing or PG. Obi plays well maybe you don't have to gut the roster for Beal or Lillard Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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gradyandrew
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10/19/2021 1:45 AM
knicks1248 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:bwahahaha. after all the pissing you did in your cornflakes about how obi could NEVER play center in this league, you start a thread like this? You lost any sympathy I had with this post. Harrell shooting a 15 footer is a win for the defense. He has to make 3 of those before I worry about guarding him. |
Knixkik
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10/19/2021 7:59 AM
If they use Obi in open space the way he should be for 15-20 mpg this is going to be a very dangerous team.
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