Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

BigDaddyG wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

It really isn't a good situation form him because he's not a NBA player. Overseas is more of a good situation for him.

He has no fire, maybe a small scented candle flame..lol

Not sure whats sadder, 1248 obsession with Frank, or my obsession with his obsession? LOL.
Curious we have not ready anything about his deal which most of us thought was a camp invite.
As for Dallas, the KP hate? Life teaches us “time heals the wounds”. True. As for fandom, I find that if my team is doing good, past does not hurt as much. I find greater joy in Randle as a knick both on and off the court than the negative residue created in the wake of KP’s defection.
I said when the deal was done I’d love to see both Dallas and Knicks in the finals. Granted, knicks might lose but no glory is made without risk.

I would have liked to have seen the meetng when Janis and KP went to meet with Mills and Perry. Their east euro aryan arrogance, chests all puffed out meeting two men of color and distinction with their list of teams of their preferred destinations that they were going to win the day. Mills with his Princeton ivy league snoot and Perry, fresh with his new title and no doubt his father proud of him (GM of the NBA New York Knicks!). I can only hope they let Janis speak with his demands only then Perry and Mills glance at each other with a sly grin, interupt Janis with “Yeah, ok, thats all good but you’v been traded to Dallas, its not on your list but its done”. Janis “well you know we might not resign with them”……….Perry: “Cube is aware, that between you and him. Best of luck with your rehab, IM sure you’ll get your money, Buh bye”………

Again. I hated this all went down as it did. But with Randle we have a better player and a well rounded dude. KP might finally have a break out season or he’ll melt under Kidd. I don’t care as long as we good.

ESOMKnicks wrote:
Soon enough people will be saying it was East Europeans who were responsible for both the American slavery and the Holocaust. What's this world coming to?

Not going that far, but it is a fact that there are more issues in european soccer competitions of opposition black players being targeted with monkey chants in eastern European venues than in western ones, even though it sometimes also happens there. I remember a classmate in 91 (High school) laughing on a monday morning because fans of his favorite soccer team (Olympique Marseille) had thrown bananas to their opponents' black goalkeeper Joseph Antoine Bell... fast forward 2 years and they all hailed black central defender Basile Boli for scoring the winning goal in the European Champions Cup Final against AC Milan.

Racism unfortunately exists everywhere, but it is not a stretch to say that eastern Europe ls a bit behind on that specific issue.

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

It really isn't a good situation form him because he's not a NBA player. Overseas is more of a good situation for him.

He has no fire, maybe a small scented candle flame..lol

Overseas! The New NBA is overseas b.ball LOL !!!
You must have never watched the original Dream-Team consecutive 40 plus points wins.
The Dream-Team owned the paint beating teams by 40 to 50 pt wins, while all their opponents shot 50 or more shots from the 3-ball line.

After looking over the Dallas Mavs guard roster for next season, Kidd & Luka will need Franks performance in the western conference.
As for the Knicks, the first two SL games where Grimes played like a bum, it look like the Knicks were gonna have to resign Frank. I like Deuce McBride, but he is to weak for NBA backcourt traps.
The Knicks last 3 SL games Grimes performance on both sides of the court were above the competition.
The Dallas Mavs have five EX-Knicks players to give them 3 important thigs they did not have in New York.
1) A winning owner of the team (Cuba).
2) A winning transition head-coach (Jason Kidd).
3) A winning Leader on the court (Luka Doncic).

Philc1 wrote:

Kemet wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

It really isn't a good situation form him because he's not a NBA player. Overseas is more of a good situation for him.

He has no fire, maybe a small scented candle flame..lol

Overseas! The New NBA is overseas b.ball LOL !!!
You must have never watched the original Dream-Team consecutive 40 plus points wins.
The Dream-Team owned the paint beating teams by 40 to 50 pt wins, while all their opponents shot 50 or more shots from the 3-ball line.

After looking over the Dallas Mavs guard roster for next season, Kidd & Luka will need Franks performance in the western conference.
As for the Knicks, the first two SL games where Grimes played like a bum, it look like the Knicks were gonna have to resign Frank. I like Deuce McBride, but he is to weak for NBA backcourt traps.
The Knicks last 3 SL games Grimes performance on both sides of the court were above the competition.
The Dallas Mavs have five EX-Knicks players to give them 3 important thigs they did not have in New York.
1) A winning owner of the team (Cuba).
2) A winning transition head-coach (Jason Kidd).
3) A winning Leader on the court (Luka Doncic).

Tim Hardaway is a terrible black hole on offense. A 3 point shooting specialist who can’t shoot 3’s. KP, we’ve gone over that diva to death I wouldn’t be shocked if Cuban tries to buyout the last 2 years of his contract after next season. The Frank haters are ofcourse angry they can’t gloat about him playing in Italy or Belarus next season instead of the nba

What is a Frank hater in your eyes? Someone that reminds you of what he did for the Knicks and dismisses all the made up hype from Frank lovers? May be early to say he is still in the NBA. Got a a camp invite. Most Mavs roster spots are guaranteed so very little chance he makes the squad. Hope he does. Think he can help a defense. But stop with the Frank hater stuff. If the kid showed ANYTHING consistent, he would still be on the Knicks.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Kemet wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

It really isn't a good situation form him because he's not a NBA player. Overseas is more of a good situation for him.

He has no fire, maybe a small scented candle flame..lol

Overseas! The New NBA is overseas b.ball LOL !!!
You must have never watched the original Dream-Team consecutive 40 plus points wins.
The Dream-Team owned the paint beating teams by 40 to 50 pt wins, while all their opponents shot 50 or more shots from the 3-ball line.

After looking over the Dallas Mavs guard roster for next season, Kidd & Luka will need Franks performance in the western conference.
As for the Knicks, the first two SL games where Grimes played like a bum, it look like the Knicks were gonna have to resign Frank. I like Deuce McBride, but he is to weak for NBA backcourt traps.
The Knicks last 3 SL games Grimes performance on both sides of the court were above the competition.
The Dallas Mavs have five EX-Knicks players to give them 3 important thigs they did not have in New York.
1) A winning owner of the team (Cuba).
2) A winning transition head-coach (Jason Kidd).
3) A winning Leader on the court (Luka Doncic).

Tim Hardaway is a terrible black hole on offense. A 3 point shooting specialist who can’t shoot 3’s. KP, we’ve gone over that diva to death I wouldn’t be shocked if Cuban tries to buyout the last 2 years of his contract after next season. The Frank haters are ofcourse angry they can’t gloat about him playing in Italy or Belarus next season instead of the nba

What is a Frank hater in your eyes?

Great question. I'm sure it won't get answered though

Swishfm3 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Kemet wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Hopefully Frank makes the Mavericks. I had him going to the Mavs from the very beginning. He left an impression on them when he played Luka. Also let’s face it. Frank is a young kid that had to face countless coaches and GM changes. Last year he was jerked around by the Knicks organization. Put into tough situations. Going into playoff game cold. We all know the Knicks as an organization sucks and player development was never a priority. Just look at Knox this guy was decent and now he isn’t. System changes bad coaches I mean Fizdale that guy isn’t even high school coaching material. Miller was a decent coach that was bringing something out of the young players and he gets canned.

Frank has to learn if he brings that passive Game with him, he won’t make it. JKidd looks to run so half court won’t cut it. I hope Frank sticks. I’m in Dallas and in way Frank is coming home. Knicks with Luka. We seen Le Bron with Knicks in Cleveland. That was a championship.

He is who he is, and I have been saying that since he came in the league, and he hasn't change much.

Every time he does get an opportunity he all of a sudden gets injured

Well let see what happens. They say change of scenery does wonders for some people. If this doesn’t light a fire under his ass then it’s over.

It's a good situation for him. Luka and Brunson are the ball handlers for the first and second units. They really just need Frank to play D and hit corners threes as a deep reserve. It's on him

It really isn't a good situation form him because he's not a NBA player. Overseas is more of a good situation for him.

He has no fire, maybe a small scented candle flame..lol

Overseas! The New NBA is overseas b.ball LOL !!!
You must have never watched the original Dream-Team consecutive 40 plus points wins.
The Dream-Team owned the paint beating teams by 40 to 50 pt wins, while all their opponents shot 50 or more shots from the 3-ball line.

After looking over the Dallas Mavs guard roster for next season, Kidd & Luka will need Franks performance in the western conference.
As for the Knicks, the first two SL games where Grimes played like a bum, it look like the Knicks were gonna have to resign Frank. I like Deuce McBride, but he is to weak for NBA backcourt traps.
The Knicks last 3 SL games Grimes performance on both sides of the court were above the competition.
The Dallas Mavs have five EX-Knicks players to give them 3 important thigs they did not have in New York.
1) A winning owner of the team (Cuba).
2) A winning transition head-coach (Jason Kidd).
3) A winning Leader on the court (Luka Doncic).

Tim Hardaway is a terrible black hole on offense. A 3 point shooting specialist who can’t shoot 3’s. KP, we’ve gone over that diva to death I wouldn’t be shocked if Cuban tries to buyout the last 2 years of his contract after next season. The Frank haters are ofcourse angry they can’t gloat about him playing in Italy or Belarus next season instead of the nba

What is a Frank hater in your eyes?

Great question. I'm sure it won't get answered though

A frank hater is someone who will say their version of the truth and feel strongly that they are not really hating but just stating facts.

A frank lover is someone who will say their version of the truth and feel strongly that they are not really loving but just stating facts.

There really is a very thin line between love and hate.

KnickDanger wrote:A Frank hater is someone who determined he was a bust from the moment Phil Jackson, the true target of their animosity, chose him at #8 as a supposed “triangle pick.” Worse perhaps was that they wanted Dennis Smith Jr. at that slot (although over time they would claim it was Donovan Mitchell). If you said he’s just 18, 19, give him a freaking chance then you were now a “Frank Lover.” Their disdain and seeming desire for Frank to fail always seemed bizarre to me, but also transparent, as it is even now.

So Frank haters, let it go. You won. Enjoy the feeling.

My sentiments exactly.