Mitch,Noel,Simms
Randle,Obi,knox
RJ,grimes,knox
Fournier,burks,IQ
Rose,IQ,McBride

That’s a really balanced roster the way Obi played at the end of the year and playoffs I think a lot of fans are sleeping on how good he’s going to be in year two. Quick is Lou Williams 2.0 on year two, burks was one of the best 4th quarter players in the league. Randle is a borderline superstar, rj is a stud that could become a All Star in year 3. everyone except Mitch in the starting line up can put the ball on the floor .

Simply put the Knicks improved from a team that finished 4 th in the east.

The bulls added ball who I think is grossly overrated. He’s a low motor player, who still takes plays off. He might get them the 8th seed of there firing on all cylinders.

This whole lowery makes the heat contenders is silly he is on the downward swing in his career and really looked over the hill last year. On a underwhelming raptors squad that was supposed to make the playoffs last season. They also locked in Robinson who I like but not for 90 mil. They are locked into untradable contracts . Lowery was out for a money grab, while his market value hasn’t hit rock bottom, it will this year.

The way I see it we are still the fourth best team in the east. Put into the fact that now a non basketball move is a offensive foul that young lives off of we might see a big drop off from players like young and harden .

Bucks
Nets
76ers
Knicks
Hawks
Heat
Celtics
Bulls
Pacers
Hornets

All the other teams are bottom feeders two teams that might be a downward surprise are the Celtics and 76ers

76ers were exposed vs the hawks.

Surprise teams I see could be the hornets if healthy and pacers if healthy. But by all means the Knicks are 4th or 5th pending on how the hawks play with the new rules

After that, it's a crapshoot IMO

One more thing -- has the last move been made?

Jazz got Rudy Gay on a 2 year with a player option, Patty Mills is out there, Malik Monk, there we plenty of team friendly options. Smart moves similar to last year.

Fournier and Rose are essentially your point guard which you are paying 34MM for, that’s not smart.

It was a coin flip with the Hawks, they jumped us. The Heat jumped us. A healthy Hornets to jumps us. The Bulls should be better than us and the Celtics had a down year. So we are fighting for a playoff spot.

None of the guys we signed have a ceiling to get better. What if Rose breaks down? Noel can’t score but is an elite defender. Fournier has some of the worst playoff numbers of all time. Now he’s playing in NYC?

Would have rather seen more minutes for the young guys this year.

This screams of a trade for Dame coming. Look for Mitch, RJ, IQ, 4-5 First rounders on the way out.

fitzfarm wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Celtics, Heat, Pacers and Hornets all could leap frog us. I can't say we did well. Granted, FA isn't over, but I can't say that the Knicks are guaranteed a playoff spot if the season started today.

Celtics only lost in free agents, heat over payed for a over the hill lowery and retained a 90 million Robinson. Pacers silent, hornets need to stay healthy.

I don’t see any of those teams leap frogging us… if we don’t finish in the top 5 we will be overwhelmingly underperforming.

We now have a starting 5 with offensive weapons in 4 of 5 spots and a deep second unit. With a potential DPOY candidate in Mitch .

I could see the heat have hot streaks but lowery is going to be very underwhelming at his age. Like he was last year.

NYKBocker wrote:I think we did well. We added 3 shooters and a backup C in the draft. 2 of them are Thibs type defenders. We added a a 20 point scorer that can shoot. Brought back our own FA's that was vital to our success last season. We did well.

Shooting really wasn't that big of a need during the regular season. They already had more than enough center depth and it looks like that will continue. What they needed was a legit NBA PG. Short of that, I can't see how anyone can say the Knicks did well. There's still work to do as far as I can see.

smackeddog wrote:We did much better! Bagely reporting all the deals are not fully guaranteed in the third year- our flexibility remains in tact, and they should all be moveable- might even get something back for them at the deadline if needed

There it is! Takes a solid offseason and improves it.