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BRIGGS
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8/1/2021  7:53 AM
We’re gonna all find this out
My wife is a 27 year employee at Yale as a nurse. She knows her stuff and they already know at the hospital tgis new variant is an aggressive contagious spreader — even if you’ve been vaccinated it will go right through u.This is a much different beast than the original— no way no drinking way are large parties gonna be able to be put together— no chance no how not possible. If you have not got a vaccine shot. Please get it. It won’t stop disease but it will very likely save your life. But we’re headed down doomsday alley here folks— get your shot and don’t waste money on advanced tix for anything — cuz it won’t materialize. I really wonder if will have sports at all next year. The way she explained it— this is 5-10x worse😳
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8/1/2021  8:27 AM
I hear you. I am getting worried. We've had a few breakthrough cases at work recently. After I finally started feeling comfortable without the mask post-vaccination, I've started wearing it again in public.

We've come so far, let's not screw it all up now because we're tired of it. Pump the breaks and continue to do everything we can to get everyone vaccinated.

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8/1/2021  8:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/1/2021  8:36 AM
This variant is already dissipating in the UK and elsewhere. It's supposedly less deadly. I've heard Scott Gottlieb, former head of the CDC say that it might start to recede in less than 2 weeks time. Everyone should get the vaccine but there is still hope.
djsunyc
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8/1/2021  8:50 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1275500

latest covid news.

38 states reporting 125k+ cases of vaccinated folks aka breakthrough cases.

of those cases, about 1400 deaths.

more people are getting now tested bc of work mandates and school.

i assume alot more vaccinated folks caught it but havent been tested bc they had no symptoms.

so what are we looking at on a macro level...

so less than 0.5% of vaccinated folks caught covid (most likely delta variant).

and of the folks that caught it, less than 2% of them are dying.

basically...the vaccine is working and saving a ton of lives.

BRIGGS
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8/1/2021  9:04 AM
djsunyc wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1275500

latest covid news.

38 states reporting 125k+ cases of vaccinated folks aka breakthrough cases.

of those cases, about 1400 deaths.

more people are getting now tested bc of work mandates and school.

i assume alot more vaccinated folks caught it but havent been tested bc they had no symptoms.

so what are we looking at on a macro level...

so less than 0.5% of vaccinated folks caught covid (most likely delta variant).

and of the folks that caught it, less than 2% of them are dying.

basically...the vaccine is working and saving a ton of lives.

I don’t care what any stats say— What I heard first hand was scary enough. We’re not even in the first inning again. To many unvaccinated folks and too many vaccinated folks who now think it’s ok to go back to normal. Tgis spreads like wild fire

RIP Crushalot😞
djsunyc
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8/1/2021  9:13 AM
well being hysterical won't help anyone either.

what all the stats say...and in the medical field, stats mean everything, vaccination is wildly successful in protecting yourself and the world from covid.

but b/c of the unvaccinated folks, it's tough to get back to normal. so the issue here is how to get people vaccinated. one of the ways to do it is to return to normal for vaccinated folks only.

want to go to a game? sure - prove vaccination.
want to travel? sure - prove vaccination.
want to work at this company? sure - prove vaccination.
want to eat at this restaurant? sure - prove vaccination.

so sporting events CAN have fans as long as these private entities enforce vaccination for entry.

if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated? fine...just understand you can't do stuff you want to. that's the only way this is going to go away. but as long as there are the desantis' of the world, some states are going to continue to suffer.

BRIGGS
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8/1/2021  9:31 AM
djsunyc wrote:well being hysterical won't help anyone either.

what all the stats say...and in the medical field, stats mean everything, vaccination is wildly successful in protecting yourself and the world from covid.

but b/c of the unvaccinated folks, it's tough to get back to normal. so the issue here is how to get people vaccinated. one of the ways to do it is to return to normal for vaccinated folks only.

want to go to a game? sure - prove vaccination.
want to travel? sure - prove vaccination.
want to work at this company? sure - prove vaccination.
want to eat at this restaurant? sure - prove vaccination.

so sporting events CAN have fans as long as these private entities enforce vaccination for entry.

if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated? fine...just understand you can't do stuff you want to. that's the only way this is going to go away. but as long as there are the desantis' of the world, some states are going to continue to suffer.

Dj. My guess is you’re gonna find out the delta goes right through many vaccinated people. Not hysteria— but rather extreme caution

RIP Crushalot😞
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8/1/2021  10:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/1/2021  10:25 AM
Fucktard Trump and his **** for brain cronies created the politicalization of this hideous virus and tapped into the ignorance of a populate that “freedom” and “Independance” is ok and no mind to the culture and fellow man. That a mask becomes aligned with the Holocaust and the false narrative propagated by the right wing conservative.

“Give trump a chance, what do we have to lose” Briggs 2016.

Tear down the media is a key component to tearing down democracy and when threatened it divides us. Its pretty bad.
Did trump create this mess? No, but he enabled the components that instigated defiance. Death threats to Fauchi and blame immigrants fo the new outbreak.

Briggs, I feel for you. I know your likley compromised by your fragile health and would prefer society had your back. Many of us do. But there are consequences to our actions. We opened things up and the price is being paid.

IM pissed! Fuck big arenas, I’m planning a funeral for my mom and have to contemplate keeping my son from coming, or me next week flying out for a very special family event of joy because so many wanted to see what becomes of those who got vaxxed and perhaps forged some ignorant narrative becuase “its not my problem”. yeah, it is.
And for those who whine about wearing a mask or rant go **** off and die on your own dime. These people are parasites off the health care system even if they pay premiums. If you smoke you pay more. If you don’t show your vaxxed, you should pay more. Talk about others jobbing the system and entitlements yet selfishly won’t take care of your fellow man so you can to to monster truck shows out for a night of partying…………Pay the dam price. I got vaxxed to protect myself and all of humanity. Patriotism is more than flying a flag or ranting against brown people you feel don’t deserve things. Entitlement is not paying the price for democracy, not welfare.
Sorry to rant at you Briggs in this manner. I agree with your message but I’m sick and tired of Newtown shooting deniers, Holocaust deniers, Alternative media suckers, and Q-Non morons who don’t get one thing: We improve our world not by thinking what your entitled to but what my obligations are my fellow man. Briggs, the very people you aligned yourself politically with could care about you or your wife.

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8/1/2021  10:07 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well being hysterical won't help anyone either.

what all the stats say...and in the medical field, stats mean everything, vaccination is wildly successful in protecting yourself and the world from covid.

but b/c of the unvaccinated folks, it's tough to get back to normal. so the issue here is how to get people vaccinated. one of the ways to do it is to return to normal for vaccinated folks only.

want to go to a game? sure - prove vaccination.
want to travel? sure - prove vaccination.
want to work at this company? sure - prove vaccination.
want to eat at this restaurant? sure - prove vaccination.

so sporting events CAN have fans as long as these private entities enforce vaccination for entry.

if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated? fine...just understand you can't do stuff you want to. that's the only way this is going to go away. but as long as there are the desantis' of the world, some states are going to continue to suffer.

Dj. My guess is you’re gonna find out the delta goes right through many vaccinated people. Not hysteria— but rather extreme caution

I don't know if I have seen this about the Delta variant. While Vaccinated People can get it, do they get it with the same likelihood as an vaccinated person? And if they do, are they spreading it as much as an vaccinated person?

Meaning - if I'm in the same room as an unvaccinated person, and someone walks in with covid, shakes both our hands, and leaves- do we both have the same % of getting it, all other things being equal?

And if we do, do we both shed the same viral load as we leave and go about our business?

I have to imagine - and again, I haven't seen any data on this- that the answer is no.

Covid will definitely be with us forever. I'm was hoping to travel again for work, trade shows and that sort of thing.

Now - not sure I see that as likely as I did a month or so ago.

The world is super connected right now, even with travel bans.

reub
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8/1/2021  11:01 AM
I'm outta here for a while. Too much hate and stupidity. Bye.
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8/1/2021  11:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/1/2021  11:36 AM
Don’t worry guys it’s not like 50% of the country is refusing the vaccine for ignorant and stupid reasons
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8/1/2021  11:56 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
djsunyc wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1275500

latest covid news.

38 states reporting 125k+ cases of vaccinated folks aka breakthrough cases.

of those cases, about 1400 deaths.

more people are getting now tested bc of work mandates and school.

i assume alot more vaccinated folks caught it but havent been tested bc they had no symptoms.

so what are we looking at on a macro level...

so less than 0.5% of vaccinated folks caught covid (most likely delta variant).

and of the folks that caught it, less than 2% of them are dying.

basically...the vaccine is working and saving a ton of lives.

I don’t care what any stats say— What I heard first hand was scary enough. We’re not even in the first inning again. To many unvaccinated folks and too many vaccinated folks who now think it’s ok to go back to normal. Tgis spreads like wild fire

Well, if you're going to ignore statistical evidence and only listen to scary anecdotes, then of course you're going to spend most of your time ****ting yourself. If that's what you want/need to do, carry, I'm just not sure why you've no interest in the stats.

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8/1/2021  11:59 AM
reub wrote:This variant is already dissipating in the UK and elsewhere. It's supposedly less deadly. I've heard Scott Gottlieb, former head of the CDC say that it might start to recede in less than 2 weeks time. Everyone should get the vaccine but there is still hope.

This is not correct and you keep stating it. Stop doing that. There is a lot of finesse and detail backdrop regarding the variant and you haven't gotten it right.

I'll kindly ask you to stop posting what you have

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martin
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8/1/2021  12:06 PM
BRIGGS wrote:We’re gonna all find this out
My wife is a 27 year employee at Yale as a nurse. She knows her stuff and they already know at the hospital tgis new variant is an aggressive contagious spreader — even if you’ve been vaccinated it will go right through u.This is a much different beast than the original— no way no drinking way are large parties gonna be able to be put together— no chance no how not possible. If you have not got a vaccine shot. Please get it. It won’t stop disease but it will very likely save your life. But we’re headed down doomsday alley here folks— get your shot and don’t waste money on advanced tix for anything — cuz it won’t materialize. I really wonder if will have sports at all next year. The way she explained it— this is 5-10x worse😳

BRIGGS, you don't have all your details correct and are making some rather blanket statements without context.

We do have a COVID thread already.

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