BRIGGS wrote:Nbadraft net. Pretty tuned into it. Dropped him from 8 to 18 tonight. Trey Murphy and Duarte up to 14-15. Should we make play for Mitchell if he falls?

Kevin O'Conner on the MisMatch podcast was saying the reason was that scouts/teams are wondering if they got a bit too excited over his latter performances, and are having second thoughts about his size and other things- he said the reason he's dropped him is because if the Warriors don't take him with their first pick, he struggles to see who will until you get to the Warriors second first round pick (Orlando, Spurs, Hornets all have enough guards). Maybe the Pacers if they decide to trade Brogdon? If the Warriors then don't take him at 14 (sounds like they might take Duarte), the Wiz have Beal and Westbrook (unless they move on form Westbrook), are OKC going to take an older rookie?

smackeddog wrote:I don't know much about him- how does he compare to Fred VanVleet?

Mitchell has a lightning-quick first step. It's going to be difficult to keep him out of the paint. He's also one of the best perimeter defenders in the draft. Can apply pressure the full 94 feet. Earned the nickname "Off Night" because if he guards you, you re most likely going to have an off-night.

smackeddog wrote:

Uptown wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I don't know much about him- how does he compare to Fred VanVleet?

Mitchell has a lightning-quick first step. It's going to be difficult to keep him out of the paint. He's also one of the best perimeter defenders in the draft. Can apply pressure the full 94 feet. Earned the nickname "Off Night" because if he guards you, you re most likely going to have an off-night.

Thanks! Do you think his defense will translate to the NBA fine? I read the knock on him is his short wingspan, though that doesn't bother VanVleet (which is why I mentioned him)

The VanVleet comparison is a good one I never thought about. Davion is a better athlete than Fred, but their games are similar. Fred is able to use strength and an anticipation on defense to make up for his physical shortcomings. I suspect Mitchell will do the same. They're also both just OK as playmakers for others and have relatively easy times getting to the rim. But the wingspan issue might hurt Davion's ability to finish at the rim. Fred is one of the worse finishers at the rim for a guard with his usage and I can see this being an issue for Davion since his wingspan isn't amazing and he doesn't have amazing jumping ability. That's why Mitchell's jumpshot has been scrutinized so much. Mitchell without a J is akin to VanVleet in the first half of the NBA finals. He'll be easily neutralized.

xblvdels3 wrote:Interesting draft. I think something we really need will slide to us regardless.

Any of these realistic draft picks will equal a good draft for us
(15-32) range

My ranking highest to lowest (impact players)

My realistic selection board in order

Mitchel
Duarte (age and nba ready frame gives him slight advantage over Murphy at draft day)
Butler
Murphy
Kispert
Mann
Cooper
Hyland
Springer
Washington
McBride
Grimes
Bassey

If we got any combination of PG/G and SF: Mitchell, Duarte, Murphy III, Butler, Mann, Hyland I would be very happy. I'll throw in Bassey as an X-Factor.

In particular Mitchell and Murphy are really nice fits and it would behoove the Knicks to move up for both if they could solidify their selection.

Mitchell, RJ, Murphy III, Randle, Robinson, FA additions and Quickly/Obi off the bench.

Bouknight could turn into sonething special if his shot comes around.

I wouldn’t trade up for these two player.