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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
![]() I might take him even if Mann is on the board. The J needs a lot of work. He said he didn't have a lot of time to work on it due to covid, NCAA suspension etc. Someone said he's TJ Ford if the jumper doesn't click. The free throw percentage is encouraging though. Would Thibs be inclined to push the pace if the Knicks drafted Coop?
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
![]() His finishing is too suspect for me as well. I believe it was 45% wasn’t it? If he can’t finish or shoot then how can he reliably create his offense? I see Ish Smith 2.0
The Future is Bright!
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xblvdels3
Posts: 20736 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/31/2020 Member: #8868 |
![]() Might have to pass. Shame. Very close to Exactly what we need.
I need these (kinda important to me) - slightly better finishing Might have to pass 😢 |
Chandler
Posts: 26774 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
![]() Doesn’t it come down to what you can fix and teach and what you can’t? Tough to teach court vision
We have enough picks to take a risk. (5)(7)
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
![]() Chandler wrote:Doesn’t it come down to what you can fix and teach and what you can’t? Tough to teach court vision This is it for me as well - dude just seems to understand angles of attack and how to get the ball through traffic. Will it be tougher playing against faster, bigger competition? Yes - but he should be able to bulk up to improve. Seems instinctive to him. Rondo, Kidd never were great shooters, but both had great careers. The size issue is a concern for sure. |
blkexec
Posts: 28298 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
![]() franco12 wrote:Chandler wrote:Doesn’t it come down to what you can fix and teach and what you can’t? Tough to teach court vision We all said the same thing about Trae... hes too small and will get exposed. Well Trae has been killing and his defensive issue tmdue to size has been over blown. There aren't too many PGs in the nba with post up potential. But Trae offensive impact is so high, we stopped talking about his defense. If this kidd can be that impactful on offense, then pairing him with Thibs is a perfect marriage. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() When I watch tre young’s success it gives u pause to look at coopers game. I know cooper is not the same shooter but does have many of same attributes
RIP Crushalot😞
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fishmike
Posts: 53805 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() word! Courtvision is such a special thing and this is the kind of draft and with two picks this is exactly the type of guy I hope we gamble on
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Uptown
Posts: 31303 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:When I watch tre young’s success it gives u pause to look at coopers game. I know cooper is not the same shooter but does have many of same attributes Similar to Trae in the way he controls the game, his quickness and more importantly, his playmaking ability. Trae is a much better playmaker than he is a long distance shooter. Trae only shooting 34% from 3. Think about this, A 6 foot player in Trae Young has made a 7 footer in Brooklyn Lopez totally unplayable in this series. Its a guards league. Sharife is one of the best guards in this draft. |
Uptown
Posts: 31303 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
![]() TPercy wrote:His finishing is too suspect for me as well. I believe it was 45% wasn’t it? If he can’t finish or shoot then how can he reliably create his offense? I see Ish Smith 2.0 He needs to develop the floater, inbetween game. Most little guards rarely get all the way to the rack, usually its the 8 to 10 foot floater, See Trae Young floater and Chris Pauls pull up 12 footer. Sharife is more talented than Ish.... |
Uptown
Posts: 31303 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
![]() fishmike wrote:word! Courtvision is such a special thing and this is the kind of draft and with two picks this is exactly the type of guy I hope we gamble on Exactly....really good chance we will see a Trae Young vs Chris Paul pg final. Two smallish guards that are elite playmakers, that completely control the game and force the other teams to gameplan against them. Cooper is my favorite player to watch of all the draft prospects... I really hope we take a shot at this kid because he can be a game changer. |
TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
![]() Uptown wrote:TPercy wrote:His finishing is too suspect for me as well. I believe it was 45% wasn’t it? If he can’t finish or shoot then how can he reliably create his offense? I see Ish Smith 2.0 I totally agree on the floater part but again right now you have a guy who can’t shoot, has no floater package, and can’t finish while being 5’11/6’0. That’s essentially slightly better version of Ish for the time being and that’s not even a knock on his Ish. The fact that he’s survived in the league for this much gives me hope for Cooper. The Future is Bright!
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Chandler
Posts: 26774 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
![]() Tim Hardaway (version 1.0) was only like 5'10" -- generously list at 6' but not true
(5)(7)
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
![]() Chandler wrote:Tim Hardaway (version 1.0) was only like 5'10" -- generously list at 6' but not true Different body type. Tim was very physical and even posted up. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Chandler
Posts: 26774 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
![]() BigDaddyG wrote:Chandler wrote:Tim Hardaway (version 1.0) was only like 5'10" -- generously list at 6' but not true no dispute. but the issue is the same. being shorter is a negative but far from disqualifying. we have example in reverse too: guys with all the measurements, athleticism and tape and being busts. It all comes down to the size of the fight in the dog (5)(7)
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() BigDaddyG wrote:Chandler wrote:Tim Hardaway (version 1.0) was only like 5'10" -- generously list at 6' but not true Tim Hardaway was a serious athlete when young RIP Crushalot😞
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:When I watch tre young’s success it gives u pause to look at coopers game. I know cooper is not the same shooter but does have many of same attributesWell, shooting is a major attribute to Young's game. Without it Trae can't do what he does. |
franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
![]() Welpee wrote:BRIGGS wrote:When I watch tre young’s success it gives u pause to look at coopers game. I know cooper is not the same shooter but does have many of same attributesWell, shooting is a major attribute to Young's game. Without it Trae can't do what he does. you're also not going to be able to draft trae young with his skills at 19, 21 or 32. I think this kid could be the change of pace pg we need- IQ with the heart and head of a pg, sans shot. |
Uptown
Posts: 31303 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
![]() Just watched Sharife interview during the draft combine and he said he officially measured
at 6'2.... |