“Obi is a prospect,” Greenberg said. “Problem is an old prospect but I don’t think that’s a big thing. He’s got good energy, runs the floor…. I thought he’d shoot it better. He’s a very good passer but didn’t show that ability. I’m not sure he has a position. I don’t think physically he can be a small-ball 5. He doesn’t have great lateral quickness. He’s a sprinter, a rim runner…. I think he’ll be a solid player and be in the league a while but never be an impactful player. He looked a little more confident shooting the ball in the playoffs, but he’s an if.”

I think after what we saw this season, he's pretty accurate with his take. I think we took him ahead of haliburton because he was from BKLYN.

As long as Randle is a Knick and Thibs is the coach, i don't see his role changing, and i don't see him getting a whole lot better.

I also don't think this system benefits him as we don't run much, and he's a rim runner

You think OBI and our 2 first rounders can get us into the TOP 5?

TPercy wrote:Think of it this way: would you trade Cade, Mobley, Green, or Suggs for Obi and picks 19 and 21? Besides, i got a lil faith in him.

depending on a teams needs, if a team has many holes to fill than a 1 for 3 deal may sound good.

Besides, we see so many times that the best guy in the draft is not always in the top 5 or even top 10,the good part is that the knicks have so many options to build a better team sooner than later..

OBI just seems like a guy who will be traded a lot because he's not bad, and is not all that good either

knicks1248 wrote:

TPercy wrote:Think of it this way: would you trade Cade, Mobley, Green, or Suggs for Obi and picks 19 and 21? Besides, i got a lil faith in him.

depending on a teams needs, if a team has many holes to fill than a 1 for 3 deal may sound good.

Besides, we see so many times that the best guy in the draft is not always in the top 5 or even top 10,the good part is that the knicks have so many options to build a better team sooner than later..

OBI just seems like a guy who will be traded a lot because he's not bad, and is not all that good either

I’m pretty sure most of those potential teams in the top five have multiple picks in this draft. Even if they didn’t, any gm that pulls off such a trade should lose their job on the spot.

TPercy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TPercy wrote:Think of it this way: would you trade Cade, Mobley, Green, or Suggs for Obi and picks 19 and 21? Besides, i got a lil faith in him.

depending on a teams needs, if a team has many holes to fill than a 1 for 3 deal may sound good.

Besides, we see so many times that the best guy in the draft is not always in the top 5 or even top 10,the good part is that the knicks have so many options to build a better team sooner than later..

OBI just seems like a guy who will be traded a lot because he's not bad, and is not all that good either

I’m pretty sure most of those potential teams in the top five have multiple picks in this draft. Even if they didn’t, any gm that pulls off such a trade should lose their job on the spot.

but we could package Obi, Knox & Robinson and our 3 picks - and that becomes very compelling.

jskinny35 wrote:Not sure how Obi will turn out but I think it's safe to say we didn't utilize him or play to his strengths much this season. Until the very end of the season/playoffs - he was usually sitting at the wing or corner waiting for a kick out 3. To his credit, he started to shoot better from outside but regardless - that's not his strength. Getting out on the break, posting up and back cuts were the ways he seemed to play best IMO. But we probably won't see enough if Randle continues to start for us at the 4... most likely he'll be packaged in some kind of trade and reach his potential elsewhere.

Will Thibs change his system to suit OBI. or will we get stud PG with similar skills to Trae/Nash/Kidd

Obi turned out to be smaller than advertised (I reckon we hoped he had the Amar'e-sized frame to match his game - but alas, not the case!). Dreams of playing him as a small ball center went away when Noel/Taj were ready-made defensively. He didn't look particularly effective in isolation or breaking down his man and getting his own shot.

Where does he go from here? Well, he seemed to get better as the season went along. He looked like a competent rotation bench player by the end of the season. His per 36 numbers project him as a 13ppg/7.5rpg type of player if you use him the same he was used all year.

Assuming Thibs doesn't tear things down, we can look for more of the same with refinements. And if the Knicks can get a top half starting PG, we may get more out of the cast we already have. A good PG should be able to help him with that. The same really could be said for the entire Knicks team. The Knicks were at their best on nights when Payton's shots were falling. That opened things up for everyone.

I think the Knicks would be well served making a big play for CP3 (geez, ~$60m/year for a 35+ year old player?!) or any other elite PGs on the market - it'd have a profound difference on Obi's production. While I'd like to keep giving Quickley a shot at stealing the starting PG spot, if you've got cap space you also have to weigh what you can get especially when you throw in other assets.

knicks1248 wrote:Was reading GREENBERGS TAKE on OBI

“Obi is a prospect,” Greenberg said. “Problem is an old prospect but I don’t think that’s a big thing. He’s got good energy, runs the floor…. I thought he’d shoot it better. He’s a very good passer but didn’t show that ability. I’m not sure he has a position. I don’t think physically he can be a small-ball 5. He doesn’t have great lateral quickness. He’s a sprinter, a rim runner…. I think he’ll be a solid player and be in the league a while but never be an impactful player. He looked a little more confident shooting the ball in the playoffs, but he’s an if.”

I think after what we saw this season, he's pretty accurate with his take. I think we took him ahead of haliburton because he was from BKLYN.

As long as Randle is a Knick and Thibs is the coach, i don't see his role changing, and i don't see him getting a whole lot better.

I also don't think this system benefits him as we don't run much, and he's a rim runner

You think OBI and our 2 first rounders can get us into the TOP 5?

No way can we get into the top 5 without RJ. Too much potential in that highly regarded group. Most likely it could get us in the 8-10 range to be honest at best. I don't think trading up benefits us much in this draft unless someone slides unexpectedly that really fits.

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:Not sure how Obi will turn out but I think it's safe to say we didn't utilize him or play to his strengths much this season. Until the very end of the season/playoffs - he was usually sitting at the wing or corner waiting for a kick out 3. To his credit, he started to shoot better from outside but regardless - that's not his strength. Getting out on the break, posting up and back cuts were the ways he seemed to play best IMO. But we probably won't see enough if Randle continues to start for us at the 4... most likely he'll be packaged in some kind of trade and reach his potential elsewhere.

Will Thibs change his system to suit OBI. or will we get stud PG with similar skills to Trae/Nash/Kidd

Where do you play him? I don't see how you play him Randle. Looks like the front office drafted him because they didn't believe in Randle. If they sign Randle longterm you have to trade Obi. You could keep him as a 15 minute back-up but thats a horrible use of resources

If we trade Randle next February’s deadline you will be extremely happy we have another very talented PF on the roster