I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

C Mitch F Randle F Barrett G Brogdon G Lowry
Bench: G Rose G Quickley G Vildoza G/F Bullock F Toppin C Gibson

I would be comfortable with a team like that beating Atlanta in 6. Guys like Lowry and Brogdon are tough, versatile, can shoot and defend multiple positions. Difference makers. If we don't trade for Brogdon than sign Norman Powell. Overpay in fact. Money isn't an issue as long as we keep our future picks and youth in tact to trade for the next superstar on the market. Cap space wait for the "right guy" is overrated. Sign guys as long as they make us better. There are a handful of guys that can do that. Eventually it's going to be a trade that puts us over the top, not cap space. The teams that are stuck are the teams without picks going forward.

knicks1248 wrote:They clearly have the 2 best PG's in the east, and have shooting at almost every position, when healthy they are the 2 best teams in the EAST..they have the ability to switch on everything on both ends

I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

This isn't realistic.

The only realistic scenario is building a team that is next in line to take over.

Nets will break down in 2-3 yrs.
Hawks capitalized on the draft pick and cap space combination they had available. But I don't see them as a long term power house as it stands. To many players due for salary increase around the same time. They can look to see if they can package Collins(S&T), Huerter, Onyeka, future draft pick(s) to land a bonefide stud for the long term to pair with Young, Hunter, Capela though.

Knicks should be looking to build up depth and assets over the next 2 seasons.
Trade one of these first rounders for more future picks for the war chest to land a stud.
Hit on one of these draft picks as a long term piece
Need Vildoza to actually be good
Use the available cap to build quality depth.

I think we can build to be better than the Hawks, but when it comes to the Nets, let Father Time take them out. We’re a young team with Randle just entering his prime and them exiting theirs. They are all are getting older and more injury prone.

Even if they weren’t I don’t see anyone outside of Kawhi who could come to the Knicks and lift them to that level, and I don’t see him coming to the Knicks.

For the hawks we got to add some shooters, and hope Mitch is healthy. We need a bigger D&3 candidate, and we got to hope RJ, IQ, and Obi continue to develop.

BRIGGS wrote:If the nets play at a maximum level with all their players. No chance

your probably right, but the good thing about that is it's very unlikely that they will stay healthy for more that a handful of games..

Im not for building a team around a couple of superstars because when one goes down, it's a wrap.

I rather have 9 quality role players that fit and have great chemistry along with one all star

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:To beat the hawks, all we were missing is better shooters.
We missed way too many open 3s, the Hawks made all of there’s.

That was the main difference in the series to me.

The Nets are another story, we would need to drastically improve our talent.

We lost because we were not ready mentally, physically/talent and got out coached.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:They clearly have the 2 best PG's in the east, and have shooting at almost every position, when healthy they are the 2 best teams in the EAST..they have the ability to switch on everything on both ends

I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

This isn't realistic.

The only realistic scenario is building a team that is next in line to take over.

Nets will break down in 2-3 yrs.
Hawks capitalized on the draft pick and cap space combination they had available. But I don't see them as a long term power house as it stands. To many players due for salary increase around the same time. They can look to see if they can package Collins(S&T), Huerter, Onyeka, future draft pick(s) to land a bonefide stud for the long term to pair with Young, Hunter, Capela though.

Knicks should be looking to build up depth and assets over the next 2 seasons.
Trade one of these first rounders for more future picks for the war chest to land a stud.
Hit on one of these draft picks as a long term piece
Need Vildoza to actually be good
Use the available cap to build quality depth.

wargames wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:They clearly have the 2 best PG's in the east, and have shooting at almost every position, when healthy they are the 2 best teams in the EAST..they have the ability to switch on everything on both ends

I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

This isn't realistic.

The only realistic scenario is building a team that is next in line to take over.

Nets will break down in 2-3 yrs.
Hawks capitalized on the draft pick and cap space combination they had available. But I don't see them as a long term power house as it stands. To many players due for salary increase around the same time. They can look to see if they can package Collins(S&T), Huerter, Onyeka, future draft pick(s) to land a bonefide stud for the long term to pair with Young, Hunter, Capela though.

Knicks should be looking to build up depth and assets over the next 2 seasons.
Trade one of these first rounders for more future picks for the war chest to land a stud.
Hit on one of these draft picks as a long term piece
Need Vildoza to actually be good
Use the available cap to build quality depth.

Then we should of tanked this year if thats the plan

People said that, but it’s more relevant in hindsight.

We’re just fans, so opinions mean nothing.

Honestly I think everyone would feel better if Randle played better during the post season. Then again that also was a reality check we needed. Even if we’re bumping with the end of the Nets primes, the Knicks can build a competitive team. Maybe we’ll get lucky and pull a Suns vs. Lakers and shut the window on them.

The Knicks are and will always be competitive as long as THIBS is the coach.

We were the 4th seed, so next season should be top 3 some of you are still stuck in the Mills era..

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:They clearly have the 2 best PG's in the east, and have shooting at almost every position, when healthy they are the 2 best teams in the EAST..they have the ability to switch on everything on both ends

I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

This isn't realistic.

The only realistic scenario is building a team that is next in line to take over.

Nets will break down in 2-3 yrs.
Hawks capitalized on the draft pick and cap space combination they had available. But I don't see them as a long term power house as it stands. To many players due for salary increase around the same time. They can look to see if they can package Collins(S&T), Huerter, Onyeka, future draft pick(s) to land a bonefide stud for the long term to pair with Young, Hunter, Capela though.

Knicks should be looking to build up depth and assets over the next 2 seasons.
Trade one of these first rounders for more future picks for the war chest to land a stud.
Hit on one of these draft picks as a long term piece
Need Vildoza to actually be good
Use the available cap to build quality depth.

Then we should of tanked this year if thats the plan

That plan has worked great for us in the past

knicks1248 wrote:

wargames wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:They clearly have the 2 best PG's in the east, and have shooting at almost every position, when healthy they are the 2 best teams in the EAST..they have the ability to switch on everything on both ends

I feel like your PG has to be the 1A or 1B on your roster, he's either have to be your first or 2nd option (best player) on your team.

We can Not have Randle as our Primary Ball Handler full time, especially in the playoffs.

we need Trae and Kyrie working on the defensive and you have to have length and speed to guard their big Wings, (gallo, KD, Hunter, Bogdon, Harris)

We just need upgrades at the PG/SF/C, and all of them need to know how to shoot from the perimeter

This isn't realistic.

The only realistic scenario is building a team that is next in line to take over.

Nets will break down in 2-3 yrs.
Hawks capitalized on the draft pick and cap space combination they had available. But I don't see them as a long term power house as it stands. To many players due for salary increase around the same time. They can look to see if they can package Collins(S&T), Huerter, Onyeka, future draft pick(s) to land a bonefide stud for the long term to pair with Young, Hunter, Capela though.

Knicks should be looking to build up depth and assets over the next 2 seasons.
Trade one of these first rounders for more future picks for the war chest to land a stud.
Hit on one of these draft picks as a long term piece
Need Vildoza to actually be good
Use the available cap to build quality depth.

Then we should of tanked this year if thats the plan

People said that, but it’s more relevant in hindsight.

We’re just fans, so opinions mean nothing.

Honestly I think everyone would feel better if Randle played better during the post season. Then again that also was a reality check we needed. Even if we’re bumping with the end of the Nets primes, the Knicks can build a competitive team. Maybe we’ll get lucky and pull a Suns vs. Lakers and shut the window on them.

The Knicks are and will always be competitive as long as THIBS is the coach.

We were the 4th seed, so next season should be top 3 some of you are still stuck in the Mills era..

Better to be there than head stuck up your ass.
Don’t berate others for dose of reality that team might have over achieved given the state of the league and conference. To just assume an improvement with no sense of what other teams are doing or understanding of next years roster with internal improvement, trades and FA is naive.
Your choice to set up for disappointment but no need to attempt to elevate your stature by accusing others to be “content” with what Mills did. It was, it ended, and team moved on.
There’s is a reality that Leon really did not redo the roster yet was “content” as you put it going what what we had. Its also constraint and intelligent. That Thibs and a whole new staff as you have pointed out was brilliant. So in a way the Mills era set the table for this era. It happens. Nobody is pining for mills or PHil. ITs not ignorant to not look back and see how we got here. At the same time its ignorant to assume a players or coach can just replicate his past and extrapolate that into the future. Things happen. Talent evolves or declines and Chemistry does not always work.