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Knixkik
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6/7/2021  3:27 PM
Marc Berman brings him up as someone there's mutual interest in. He's 25 years old, regarded as a very good defensive player, very athletic, and decent shooter. He would bring more athleticism and shot making ability in place of Bullock, while probably equaling his defensive versatility but likely at the expense of some shooting. We would have to hope there's a jump in production given his age and still having some untapped potential. I was reading a couple Warriors blogs and they really like him and don't want to see him go. He started off the season ice cold (like Barrett) from 3pt and improved as the year went on. A rare young, athletic, 2-way wing on the open market. He stands out in that regard behind maybe Norman Powell. Oubre also falls into that funny category of a player who's probably worth more than the MLE but only a handful of teams can offer more, and their focus might be on some bigger fish at first. How do people here feel about him as a potential wing opposite of Barrett, assuming we also add a new starting PG?
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6/7/2021  3:34 PM
No thanks, he actively made the Warriors worse for much of the season (literally ran into Steph once)
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6/7/2021  4:22 PM
Was gonna make a thread about him a couple weeks ago to see other posters opinions on him. But he has such a terrible season for such a good situation in GS it kind of turned me off of the idea.

Analytically he comes off very empty stat ish. Statistically he isn't a strong enough shooter if that was his role. He isn't a strong enough defender if that is his role. And he isn't an efficient enough scorer if that is his role. Doesn't generate much assist so also isn't going to be a play maker.

Even with all that at 25 and Thibs as the coach at the right price he could be worth a gamble as he was a lottery talent. So if it was a 1+1(TO)type deal he could maybe be worth a shot.

Rather have Fournier though if the bigger pieces aren't able to be obtained. More proven, more consistent, more skilled ball handling and shooting compliment next to RJ.

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6/7/2021  4:43 PM
Live in Bay Area so have watched a lot of Oubre here (and his season in Phx). Thus far he's very good defensively and very streaky as a shooter. He plays hard and is a very good slasher. I like him better than Derozan as a slasher option - but I would have concerns with him starting here as we are already limited on outside shooting. Oubre can start and really help a team if the rest of the starters are good shooters - but him alongside RJ would be very tough offensively (too similar). One would have to come off the bench IMO - and that's where his salary would become an issue. I suspect the Knicks already know all of this and would consider parting with RJ if they decide to sign Oubre. Fans will love the energy he brings as he really hustles...
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6/7/2021  4:56 PM
One plan that doesn't get talked about; signing former teammates Lowry and Powell. Add them to a starting lineup of Barrett, Randle, and Mitch and it would be a real improvement. Powell would be 3 and D plus advanced shot making and 3pt shooting. Lowry bring the toughness and leadership until a long-term solution at PG is determined.
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6/7/2021  4:59 PM
Was pretty high on him when he played for the Wiz but he seems to have gotten worse over time. Shown some flashes here and there but I don't think he is the answer and definitely not an upgrade from what we already have.
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6/7/2021  5:34 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:Was pretty high on him when he played for the Wiz but he seems to have gotten worse over time. Shown some flashes here and there but I don't think he is the answer and definitely not an upgrade from what we already have.

Same here, He was brutal the first month of the season and warrior fans were killing him.

Somehow he always seem to play well against the knicks

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6/7/2021  7:02 PM
Knixkik wrote:One plan that doesn't get talked about; signing former teammates Lowry and Powell. Add them to a starting lineup of Barrett, Randle, and Mitch and it would be a real improvement. Powell would be 3 and D plus advanced shot making and 3pt shooting. Lowry bring the toughness and leadership until a long-term solution at PG is determined.

It gets brought up, Im not a fan of Powell. I don't think a 6'3" SF is such a great idea. The team needs a real sized SF

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6/7/2021  7:03 PM
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Swishfm3 wrote:Was pretty high on him when he played for the Wiz but he seems to have gotten worse over time. Shown some flashes here and there but I don't think he is the answer and definitely not an upgrade from what we already have.

Same here, He was brutal the first month of the season and warrior fans were killing him.

Somehow he always seem to play well against the knicks

He is a risk/reward player. Unclear to me if he has mental game to be a star, but the physical skill set is solid. Question I would want to ask Johnnie Bryant is -- what would you do with this player? Feels like the kind of player with a few tweaks could be trained to be a championship caliber stopper.

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6/7/2021  7:14 PM

first, i hate berman. need to get that off my chest. guy is a clown

when i've seen oubre i've liked him but he is NOT what we need. We don't need another slasher type even with D. We need reliable high quality shooting, and a reliable pg who can attack and shoot.

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6/8/2021  10:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2021  10:54 AM
What is between the ears? We building a culture of intensity. Not all players are wired for that. Oubre has shown a lot of talent and flair. A young handsome man with incredibe talent and is getting wealthy. For a lot of teams, even good ones thats enough. In Miami you can’t just do that. In other places it works. Reputation matters. I’m not saying I know **** about him deep down but its one thing to say all the right things but did you live it prior to wanting the big contract?

I see him as an upgrade to Bullock but what Reggie bought was a maturity and intensity forged not just from being an NBAplayer but from life. There is an intangible that he commands respect on and off the court. He is not great but works on this team.
If Oubre wants to fuss with his hair, party, be a celebrity thats fine as long as the intensity is there and he can handle Thibs and what this team is creating.

We focus on Randles turnovers and his playoff performance but in the aftermath we are forgetting his leadership qualities on and off the court and how he worked in the culture showing the young guys how to do it. Randle has been married since college and has the cute sone. If its a good marriage he demonstrates a mature/commitment. Not to say young singles guys need to settle down. Is Oubre the kind of kid after he got a nice contact going to follow the guys that went to the game after a flight to a road game or go “out”? Again, not all of these kids need to do that but if you have a core doing it and some are not it will affect your locker room at some point if your not doing the job. As fans we want those guys. That might be a bit asking too much. A guy like Westbrook might not do that but he brings it in other ways. Is Oubre garnering respect or just a super talented fun boy? Someteams can take on those types better than others. How did he did in GSW in that culture? Was he there as trade fodder or sub until Klay got back and thus it was ok? Would SAS or Miami take him given their culture? Could he play with Jimmy Butler intensity or Thibs up his ass all the time? For all we know he can get paid, have a great life playing well and not deal with it.

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6/8/2021  5:10 PM
Depends on price… I want there to be a chance he out performs his deal. I have 0 interest if he gets a THJ type of deal
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6/8/2021  5:25 PM
Chandler wrote:
first, i hate berman. need to get that off my chest. guy is a clown

when i've seen oubre i've liked him but he is NOT what we need. We don't need another slasher type even with D. We need reliable high quality shooting, and a reliable pg who can attack and shoot.

You think Berman is bias, why would you hate a guy who's reporting Knick News

Do we have any slashers on this team other than RJ, on a good day Kelly can shoot, defend, slash, put the ball on the floor, he's also 6 7" and can guard multiple position.

last season Bullock and Rj shoot like crap, this yr..night and day

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6/8/2021  5:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
first, i hate berman. need to get that off my chest. guy is a clown

when i've seen oubre i've liked him but he is NOT what we need. We don't need another slasher type even with D. We need reliable high quality shooting, and a reliable pg who can attack and shoot.

You think Berman is bias, why would you hate a guy who's reporting Knick News

Do we have any slashers on this team other than RJ, on a good day Kelly can shoot, defend, slash, put the ball on the floor, he's also 6 7" and can guard multiple position.

last season Bullock and Rj shoot like crap, this yr..night and day

The hate on this board for guys like Oubre and Ball appears to be that they aren’t Lebron.

I don’t have Oubre at a Randle level when we signed him, but he’s in the same tier. I don’t know enough about him to know if he can take the next step the way Randle did. I just know his physical qualities (and 7’3 wingspan) make him a great candidate for wing defense. If the Knicks feel they can get that 3 pt up to snuff, he’s be a bargain. Especially since his penetration is solid. Depending on what other moves they make this offseason, he could fit really well. If they managed to add Ball, Oubre and Powell on contracts that make sense, they would have a much deeper rotation than they had this year.

Yes. 7’3 wingspan. That’s close to Mitchell Robinson’s (7’4)

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6/8/2021  6:10 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
first, i hate berman. need to get that off my chest. guy is a clown

when i've seen oubre i've liked him but he is NOT what we need. We don't need another slasher type even with D. We need reliable high quality shooting, and a reliable pg who can attack and shoot.

You think Berman is bias, why would you hate a guy who's reporting Knick News

Do we have any slashers on this team other than RJ, on a good day Kelly can shoot, defend, slash, put the ball on the floor, he's also 6 7" and can guard multiple position.

last season Bullock and Rj shoot like crap, this yr..night and day

The hate on this board for guys like Oubre and Ball appears to be that they aren’t Lebron.

I don’t have Oubre at a Randle level when we signed him, but he’s in the same tier. I don’t know enough about him to know if he can take the next step the way Randle did. I just know his physical qualities (and 7’3 wingspan) make him a great candidate for wing defense. If the Knicks feel they can get that 3 pt up to snuff, he’s be a bargain. Especially since his penetration is solid. Depending on what other moves they make this offseason, he could fit really well. If they managed to add Ball, Oubre and Powell on contracts that make sense, they would have a much deeper rotation than they had this year.

Yes. 7’3 wingspan. That’s close to Mitchell Robinson’s (7’4)

for the record i hate berman; i said i liked oubre just not on our current team. if there were a search button you could find me advocating for him when he was on Wizards. We have bigger priorities

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6/8/2021  7:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2021  7:07 PM
Only if he took a large 1 year payment. We need size at the wing and while I think the Knicks can draft it, you can’t expect a rookie to play heavy under Thibs. So give Kelly a 1 year 20 Mil salary like he wants and then let him go to have money for Lavine or Beal. Thibs might fix him enough he can earn a legit long contract in that range later.

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Is atrocious shooting but he brings size we need at SF for RJ to play more SG.

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6/8/2021  8:07 PM
Chandler wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Chandler wrote:
first, i hate berman. need to get that off my chest. guy is a clown

when i've seen oubre i've liked him but he is NOT what we need. We don't need another slasher type even with D. We need reliable high quality shooting, and a reliable pg who can attack and shoot.

You think Berman is bias, why would you hate a guy who's reporting Knick News

Do we have any slashers on this team other than RJ, on a good day Kelly can shoot, defend, slash, put the ball on the floor, he's also 6 7" and can guard multiple position.

last season Bullock and Rj shoot like crap, this yr..night and day

The hate on this board for guys like Oubre and Ball appears to be that they aren’t Lebron.

I don’t have Oubre at a Randle level when we signed him, but he’s in the same tier. I don’t know enough about him to know if he can take the next step the way Randle did. I just know his physical qualities (and 7’3 wingspan) make him a great candidate for wing defense. If the Knicks feel they can get that 3 pt up to snuff, he’s be a bargain. Especially since his penetration is solid. Depending on what other moves they make this offseason, he could fit really well. If they managed to add Ball, Oubre and Powell on contracts that make sense, they would have a much deeper rotation than they had this year.

Yes. 7’3 wingspan. That’s close to Mitchell Robinson’s (7’4)

for the record i hate berman; i said i liked oubre just not on our current team. if there were a search button you could find me advocating for him when he was on Wizards. We have bigger priorities


Yep, we need shooting and shot creation. I like oubre too, but I don't see the fit with RJ and Randle. I think I'd rather have McDermott.
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