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Nalod
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5/25/2021  10:49 PM
The accolades of Knicks from media has been fun. Leon is getting a bit more recognition for his work. So is World Wide Wes. Keep hearing this.
What does Wes actually do for the knicks? It get for CAA he was kind of a Master Yogi/Concierge problem solver dude that got shyt done and put people together kind of a a guy. For a talent agency, that I can understand.
But what is he doing for a pro basketball team full time?
He do deals? Trades? Coach? Cook? Read MRI’s? Crunch numbers? Watch tape?
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5/25/2021  10:51 PM
He's here to hug

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5/25/2021  10:57 PM
martin wrote:He's here to hug

Ok, thats something!
All this time I thought he just carried the duffel bag of cash for Leon and Calipari’s recruits!

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5/26/2021  12:22 AM
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5/26/2021  8:46 AM
Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me? Let’s not do “I feel he”.........which is opinion based on collective readings.
I can understand how he would be of value in the world of player agents. I’m an expert, I watched “Arlis” and “Entourage” on HBO for years. Fun show for its day. Dudes that can make players happy in ways others could not is a valuable asset for a talent agency. Its a bit slimy perhaps but thats another world.
For all the years of “Dolan in bed with CAA” never got us anywhere. Naturally or instinctively he reached into the heart of CAA sports agency and took its soul which we call Leon. With that he put together a retread Coach who is dedicated to his craft and an obsessive about it. That Thibs has no family of his own, not married, and perhaps might not even own a dog is telling of his dedication. The dude is an orthodox basketball priest who married the game! That Leon assembled a staff around him as he has is well documented and proven effective. The success is primarily wonderful as he the season basically went without a starphuch or even a massive trade or free agent signing. It was fantastic.
Steve Stout PR did a great job keeping MSG and Dolan Neutral which is a great first step. Some how the FO purge for the Rangers made Dolan look good! I’m not a big Ranger fan but happy never-the-less. That despite the ramp up in the Nets world they let it play itself out. Nalod says “let the games sort it out and knicks take care of business”. Not a prediction, just logic that billboards or words vs. cross town rivals don’t mean a thing unless your successful. Knicks did it without a stupid star studded trade because games matter. 10 years ago we did by obtaining Melo in his prime but failed to properly build around him. Old story, relax Jrod.
Long ass way to get to: “What has WWW done to deserve the accolades he is getting?” I’m not trying to discredit him in any way. He gets paid with Dolan money so its no skin off my back. Its not like kids are not going to duke and signing with Knicks. Maybe we got Valdoza a sweet apartment and leased a Russian Bride for him as incentive to sign here? Again, no issue for me.
I read that WWW can get tickets to shows and other events. so can having a American Express black card.
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5/26/2021  9:33 AM
Nalod wrote:Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me? Let’s not do “I feel he”.........which is opinion based on collective readings.
I can understand how he would be of value in the world of player agents. I’m an expert, I watched “Arlis” and “Entourage” on HBO for years. Fun show for its day. Dudes that can make players happy in ways others could not is a valuable asset for a talent agency. Its a bit slimy perhaps but thats another world.
For all the years of “Dolan in bed with CAA” never got us anywhere. Naturally or instinctively he reached into the heart of CAA sports agency and took its soul which we call Leon. With that he put together a retread Coach who is dedicated to his craft and an obsessive about it. That Thibs has no family of his own, not married, and perhaps might not even own a dog is telling of his dedication. The dude is an orthodox basketball priest who married the game! That Leon assembled a staff around him as he has is well documented and proven effective. The success is primarily wonderful as he the season basically went without a starphuch or even a massive trade or free agent signing. It was fantastic.
Steve Stout PR did a great job keeping MSG and Dolan Neutral which is a great first step. Some how the FO purge for the Rangers made Dolan look good! I’m not a big Ranger fan but happy never-the-less. That despite the ramp up in the Nets world they let it play itself out. Nalod says “let the games sort it out and knicks take care of business”. Not a prediction, just logic that billboards or words vs. cross town rivals don’t mean a thing unless your successful. Knicks did it without a stupid star studded trade because games matter. 10 years ago we did by obtaining Melo in his prime but failed to properly build around him. Old story, relax Jrod.
Long ass way to get to: “What has WWW done to deserve the accolades he is getting?” I’m not trying to discredit him in any way. He gets paid with Dolan money so its no skin off my back. Its not like kids are not going to duke and signing with Knicks. Maybe we got Valdoza a sweet apartment and leased a Russian Bride for him as incentive to sign here? Again, no issue for me.
I read that WWW can get tickets to shows and other events. so can having a American Express black card.

Leon prob doesn't know what WWW does, he just know he needs him to keep doing it.

Leon: Wes, we need to win the draft tiebreakers, get it done!
WWW: Bro, that was set in stone months ago. I got your back.

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5/26/2021  9:41 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me? Let’s not do “I feel he”.........which is opinion based on collective readings.
I can understand how he would be of value in the world of player agents. I’m an expert, I watched “Arlis” and “Entourage” on HBO for years. Fun show for its day. Dudes that can make players happy in ways others could not is a valuable asset for a talent agency. Its a bit slimy perhaps but thats another world.
For all the years of “Dolan in bed with CAA” never got us anywhere. Naturally or instinctively he reached into the heart of CAA sports agency and took its soul which we call Leon. With that he put together a retread Coach who is dedicated to his craft and an obsessive about it. That Thibs has no family of his own, not married, and perhaps might not even own a dog is telling of his dedication. The dude is an orthodox basketball priest who married the game! That Leon assembled a staff around him as he has is well documented and proven effective. The success is primarily wonderful as he the season basically went without a starphuch or even a massive trade or free agent signing. It was fantastic.
Steve Stout PR did a great job keeping MSG and Dolan Neutral which is a great first step. Some how the FO purge for the Rangers made Dolan look good! I’m not a big Ranger fan but happy never-the-less. That despite the ramp up in the Nets world they let it play itself out. Nalod says “let the games sort it out and knicks take care of business”. Not a prediction, just logic that billboards or words vs. cross town rivals don’t mean a thing unless your successful. Knicks did it without a stupid star studded trade because games matter. 10 years ago we did by obtaining Melo in his prime but failed to properly build around him. Old story, relax Jrod.
Long ass way to get to: “What has WWW done to deserve the accolades he is getting?” I’m not trying to discredit him in any way. He gets paid with Dolan money so its no skin off my back. Its not like kids are not going to duke and signing with Knicks. Maybe we got Valdoza a sweet apartment and leased a Russian Bride for him as incentive to sign here? Again, no issue for me.
I read that WWW can get tickets to shows and other events. so can having a American Express black card.

Leon prob doesn't know what WWW does, he just know he needs him to keep doing it.

Leon: Wes, we need to win the draft tiebreakers, get it done!
WWW: Bro, that was set in stone months ago. I got your back.

LOL, Leon does not know and likely does NOT WANT TO!..........

Stout: Be helpful to enhance knicks reputation. Any ideas?
WWW: Got it.

One week later..........KP fined 50k for being in a strip club.

What can we expect next?

Trae gets “food poisoning?”
Covid protocols on ATL players?

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5/26/2021  9:55 AM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me? Let’s not do “I feel he”.........which is opinion based on collective readings.
I can understand how he would be of value in the world of player agents. I’m an expert, I watched “Arlis” and “Entourage” on HBO for years. Fun show for its day. Dudes that can make players happy in ways others could not is a valuable asset for a talent agency. Its a bit slimy perhaps but thats another world.
For all the years of “Dolan in bed with CAA” never got us anywhere. Naturally or instinctively he reached into the heart of CAA sports agency and took its soul which we call Leon. With that he put together a retread Coach who is dedicated to his craft and an obsessive about it. That Thibs has no family of his own, not married, and perhaps might not even own a dog is telling of his dedication. The dude is an orthodox basketball priest who married the game! That Leon assembled a staff around him as he has is well documented and proven effective. The success is primarily wonderful as he the season basically went without a starphuch or even a massive trade or free agent signing. It was fantastic.
Steve Stout PR did a great job keeping MSG and Dolan Neutral which is a great first step. Some how the FO purge for the Rangers made Dolan look good! I’m not a big Ranger fan but happy never-the-less. That despite the ramp up in the Nets world they let it play itself out. Nalod says “let the games sort it out and knicks take care of business”. Not a prediction, just logic that billboards or words vs. cross town rivals don’t mean a thing unless your successful. Knicks did it without a stupid star studded trade because games matter. 10 years ago we did by obtaining Melo in his prime but failed to properly build around him. Old story, relax Jrod.
Long ass way to get to: “What has WWW done to deserve the accolades he is getting?” I’m not trying to discredit him in any way. He gets paid with Dolan money so its no skin off my back. Its not like kids are not going to duke and signing with Knicks. Maybe we got Valdoza a sweet apartment and leased a Russian Bride for him as incentive to sign here? Again, no issue for me.
I read that WWW can get tickets to shows and other events. so can having a American Express black card.

Leon prob doesn't know what WWW does, he just know he needs him to keep doing it.

Leon: Wes, we need to win the draft tiebreakers, get it done!
WWW: Bro, that was set in stone months ago. I got your back.

LOL, Leon does not know and likely does NOT WANT TO!..........

Stout: Be helpful to enhance knicks reputation. Any ideas?
WWW: Got it.

One week later..........KP fined 50k for being in a strip club.

What can we expect next?

Trae gets “food poisoning?”
Covid protocols on ATL players?

Wes! We need a defensive minded SF who can take over at the end of the game!

There is a world wide reason Clips down 0-2.

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5/26/2021  10:20 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me? Let’s not do “I feel he”.........which is opinion based on collective readings.
I can understand how he would be of value in the world of player agents. I’m an expert, I watched “Arlis” and “Entourage” on HBO for years. Fun show for its day. Dudes that can make players happy in ways others could not is a valuable asset for a talent agency. Its a bit slimy perhaps but thats another world.
For all the years of “Dolan in bed with CAA” never got us anywhere. Naturally or instinctively he reached into the heart of CAA sports agency and took its soul which we call Leon. With that he put together a retread Coach who is dedicated to his craft and an obsessive about it. That Thibs has no family of his own, not married, and perhaps might not even own a dog is telling of his dedication. The dude is an orthodox basketball priest who married the game! That Leon assembled a staff around him as he has is well documented and proven effective. The success is primarily wonderful as he the season basically went without a starphuch or even a massive trade or free agent signing. It was fantastic.
Steve Stout PR did a great job keeping MSG and Dolan Neutral which is a great first step. Some how the FO purge for the Rangers made Dolan look good! I’m not a big Ranger fan but happy never-the-less. That despite the ramp up in the Nets world they let it play itself out. Nalod says “let the games sort it out and knicks take care of business”. Not a prediction, just logic that billboards or words vs. cross town rivals don’t mean a thing unless your successful. Knicks did it without a stupid star studded trade because games matter. 10 years ago we did by obtaining Melo in his prime but failed to properly build around him. Old story, relax Jrod.
Long ass way to get to: “What has WWW done to deserve the accolades he is getting?” I’m not trying to discredit him in any way. He gets paid with Dolan money so its no skin off my back. Its not like kids are not going to duke and signing with Knicks. Maybe we got Valdoza a sweet apartment and leased a Russian Bride for him as incentive to sign here? Again, no issue for me.
I read that WWW can get tickets to shows and other events. so can having a American Express black card.

Leon prob doesn't know what WWW does, he just know he needs him to keep doing it.

Leon: Wes, we need to win the draft tiebreakers, get it done!
WWW: Bro, that was set in stone months ago. I got your back.

LOL, Leon does not know and likely does NOT WANT TO!..........

Stout: Be helpful to enhance knicks reputation. Any ideas?
WWW: Got it.

One week later..........KP fined 50k for being in a strip club.

What can we expect next?

Trae gets “food poisoning?”
Covid protocols on ATL players?

Wes! We need a defensive minded SF who can take over at the end of the game!

There is a world wide reason Clips down 0-2.

Yeah PG13 really isn’t very good . Probably one of the most over rated players in the league …

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5/26/2021  11:18 AM
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5/26/2021  11:36 AM
Nalod wrote:Love the banter. Still, nobody here can tell me?
I believe I follow your question and its a good one and I hope we know this offseason.

(Leaving out the rookies because we want to evaluate on the NBA level)

Would you say the following statements are accurate?

The following players have seen their NBA value and impact increase under Thibs after 1 year:
Randle/RJ/Mitch/Bullock/Noel/Burks/Rose

The following have not:
SmithJR/Frank/Elf/Knox

Even if Thibs doesnt win COY it doesnt matter. Randle went from trade fodder to MIP and a sure max guy. Bullock and Burks are having career shooting years and allowed to let it fly. Players will take note that Thibs lets his players be players and do what they do. Like Bill Withers said just do it good. If its IQ shooting 4s or RJ and Randle treating opposing front courts like bowling pins just do it good.

Bottom line is players around the league will have a very different perception of this place this offseason. I would not be surprised if Kawhi gives us a really honest look. Especially if LAC gets bounced (down 0-2) adding Kawhi to the Knicks puts us in instant title contention. He would be surrounded by RJ/Randle/Rose and a rim protector. I wonder what KL thinks of Thibs?

I HOPE that even if its not Kawhi that other players will come. I like Schroder and Powell as guys around Randle's age who may have another level they can get to.

Who can predict which guys? I dont know, but I expect NY to be a hot stove destination with a lot of willing players.

Also... Cameron Payne sucks.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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5/26/2021  12:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/26/2021  12:39 PM
Panos wrote:

WWW's job description is simply "the man who gets s#!t done!".


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5/27/2021  11:08 AM
Panos wrote:
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