Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

Believe part of it depends on the Pels playoff run. Lonzo has a good series or two. It will increase the interest, as well as the asking price. Hard to say what Leon Rose will think is too much, if Lonzo looks like a future All-Star PG.

Rose has a good showing in the playoffs. With the way he's been a locker room player. Might get a generous offer somewhere. Dont know what Rose would do, but you never know. Some team might be desperate enough to overpay.

Dont believe Bullock will ask for the moon either.

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

Believe part of it depends on the Pels playoff run. Lonzo has a good series or two. It will increase the interest, as well as the asking price. Hard to say what Leon Rose will think is too much, if Lonzo looks like a future All-Star PG.

Rose has a good showing in the playoffs. With the way he's been a locker room player. Might get a generous offer somewhere. Dont know what Rose would do, but you never know. Some team might be desperate enough to overpay.

Dont believe Bullock will ask for the moon either.

I don't see Rose getting a big offer and leaving. He's great here playing for Thibs and he knows it. Has he ever had success playing for another coach in his career? This is the fit that prolongs his success and when healthy he's probably the answer at PG for the next couple of years. Obviously we need a long-term solution, and maybe having Quickley and Vildoza on the roster gives us 2 cracks at that. Outside of Chris Paul, who's impact will eventually decline, the players you can see Leon having an eye on are all wings or bigs. LaVine, Beal, Booker, Towns, and Embiid. These are all players he has some connection/relationship with and without full-on tampering, i am sure Leon/Wes have an idea of their futures right now. Basically i'm saying maybe between Randle's playmaking, Barrett's future playmaking potential, and the committee of Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza, PG won't be a concern for them and their focus will be on finding a wing or center superstar.

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

Believe part of it depends on the Pels playoff run. Lonzo has a good series or two. It will increase the interest, as well as the asking price. Hard to say what Leon Rose will think is too much, if Lonzo looks like a future All-Star PG.

Rose has a good showing in the playoffs. With the way he's been a locker room player. Might get a generous offer somewhere. Dont know what Rose would do, but you never know. Some team might be desperate enough to overpay.

Dont believe Bullock will ask for the moon either.

I don't see Rose getting a big offer and leaving. He's great here playing for Thibs and he knows it. Has he ever had success playing for another coach in his career? This is the fit that prolongs his success and when healthy he's probably the answer at PG for the next couple of years. Obviously we need a long-term solution, and maybe having Quickley and Vildoza on the roster gives us 2 cracks at that. Outside of Chris Paul, who's impact will eventually decline, the players you can see Leon having an eye on are all wings or bigs. LaVine, Beal, Booker, Towns, and Embiid. These are all players he has some connection/relationship with and without full-on tampering, i am sure Leon/Wes have an idea of their futures right now. Basically i'm saying maybe between Randle's playmaking, Barrett's future playmaking potential, and the committee of Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza, PG won't be a concern for them and their focus will be on finding a wing or center superstar.

Not even if we see vintage Rose? Not the same burst, but filling a stat sheet? No way I want to start him next season. The first few minutes of a game, against starting units, can be especially taxing on a player with Rose's injury history. Ite not worth the extra wear and tear. When Rose comes in, not everyone is fresh on the other team, ready to push the tempo. Helps Rose exploit the holes in the defense.

Believe we would get more production from Rose where he is right now over a season.

Have an "if it aint broke, dont fix it" attitude to Rose's role.

Believe the starting job, if Rose comes back, will be between Vildoza and whoever the FO has their sights on in free agency, or in the draft. Payton (to Uptown's eternal regret) will likely
be gone. I think the FO likes Rose where he is. Feel the same way, if true.

I agree or it could be just how I see it lol

xblvdels3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

I agree with what your saying but I see it as we only have 2 reliable pg. (health wise)

Iq
Luca

I don’t see rose playing more than 50 regular season games.

We need another one pg through the draft or free agency (insurance)

Just because I Q is under 6 4" doesn't qualify him as a PG, his job is to shoot at will from where he feels comfortable at.

Passing for IQ is a 3rd option. just imagine if Randle had IQ's mind set, would you still consider him a POINT FWD?

Do you consider Paul George or Kawhi a point fwd?

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

Believe part of it depends on the Pels playoff run. Lonzo has a good series or two. It will increase the interest, as well as the asking price. Hard to say what Leon Rose will think is too much, if Lonzo looks like a future All-Star PG.

Rose has a good showing in the playoffs. With the way he's been a locker room player. Might get a generous offer somewhere. Dont know what Rose would do, but you never know. Some team might be desperate enough to overpay.

Dont believe Bullock will ask for the moon either.

I don't see Rose getting a big offer and leaving. He's great here playing for Thibs and he knows it. Has he ever had success playing for another coach in his career? This is the fit that prolongs his success and when healthy he's probably the answer at PG for the next couple of years. Obviously we need a long-term solution, and maybe having Quickley and Vildoza on the roster gives us 2 cracks at that. Outside of Chris Paul, who's impact will eventually decline, the players you can see Leon having an eye on are all wings or bigs. LaVine, Beal, Booker, Towns, and Embiid. These are all players he has some connection/relationship with and without full-on tampering, i am sure Leon/Wes have an idea of their futures right now. Basically i'm saying maybe between Randle's playmaking, Barrett's future playmaking potential, and the committee of Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza, PG won't be a concern for them and their focus will be on finding a wing or center superstar.

Not even if we see vintage Rose? Not the same burst, but filling a stat sheet? No way I want to start him next season. The first few minutes of a game, against starting units, can be especially taxing on a player with Rose's injury history. Ite not worth the extra wear and tear. When Rose comes in, not everyone is fresh on the other team, ready to push the tempo. Helps Rose exploit the holes in the defense.

Believe we would get more production from Rose where he is right now over a season.

Have an "if it aint broke, dont fix it" attitude to Rose's role.

Believe the starting job, if Rose comes back, will be between Vildoza and whoever the FO has their sights on in free agency, or in the draft. Payton (to Uptown's eternal regret) will likely
be gone. I think the FO likes Rose where he is. Feel the same way, if true.

Not sure why you think the first 5 minutes are more taxing to Rose as opposed to the last 5 minutes in a close game when the intensity levels
are much more intense. In fact, I think the way Thibs is using Rose is not doing him any justice. Most nights, Rose will come in at the 4 minute mark of the 1st and 3rd quarters, and will play 16 straight minutes, in each half. In the 4th, he's facing rested Starters for the final 5 minutes of each game. Thibs has been great for the most part, but I can't stand some of his substitution patterns.

Hopefully, we bring in a legit FA PG to take over the reigns that can give us 30 mins a night ad keep Rose between 18-24 minutes a night, depending. And, I will buy Paytons plane ticket and will personally uber his a** outta town

Uptown wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Its a good question to ask with the signing of Luca. The FO might be concerned that its not worth putting the outcome of a season on wether or not Rose can stay healthy. Also might be concerned that Lonzo will ask too much to start. As well as Rose wanting too much off the bench. Might want a raise. I hope Rose is back next season. He really has been Rose 2.0 this time around.

Dont believe we're going to know until we see what Luca can do for the team's playoff ambitions. If he doesnt pan out, or doesnt look like more than a backup, I see the FO making a competitive offer for Ball.

Luca is going to have to really shine on both ends of the court to make the FO forget about Ball. Showing he's worth the attention.

I really believe Knicks won't go too high for a non-superstar like Ball or Schroder, a much as either would help. The front office wants to be resourceful and flexible, as they likely have their eyes on a couple of big fish. Rose and Bullock won't break the bank, so they will likely be back. Randle's extension/next contract becomes a priority, as well as landing a big fish via trade or free agency, and i'm sure there's a couple of names Rose and Wes have in mind. Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza seem like a solid PG crew if Vildoza can prove to be an impact player.

Believe part of it depends on the Pels playoff run. Lonzo has a good series or two. It will increase the interest, as well as the asking price. Hard to say what Leon Rose will think is too much, if Lonzo looks like a future All-Star PG.

Rose has a good showing in the playoffs. With the way he's been a locker room player. Might get a generous offer somewhere. Dont know what Rose would do, but you never know. Some team might be desperate enough to overpay.

Dont believe Bullock will ask for the moon either.

I don't see Rose getting a big offer and leaving. He's great here playing for Thibs and he knows it. Has he ever had success playing for another coach in his career? This is the fit that prolongs his success and when healthy he's probably the answer at PG for the next couple of years. Obviously we need a long-term solution, and maybe having Quickley and Vildoza on the roster gives us 2 cracks at that. Outside of Chris Paul, who's impact will eventually decline, the players you can see Leon having an eye on are all wings or bigs. LaVine, Beal, Booker, Towns, and Embiid. These are all players he has some connection/relationship with and without full-on tampering, i am sure Leon/Wes have an idea of their futures right now. Basically i'm saying maybe between Randle's playmaking, Barrett's future playmaking potential, and the committee of Rose, Quickley, and Vildoza, PG won't be a concern for them and their focus will be on finding a wing or center superstar.

Not even if we see vintage Rose? Not the same burst, but filling a stat sheet? No way I want to start him next season. The first few minutes of a game, against starting units, can be especially taxing on a player with Rose's injury history. Ite not worth the extra wear and tear. When Rose comes in, not everyone is fresh on the other team, ready to push the tempo. Helps Rose exploit the holes in the defense.

Believe we would get more production from Rose where he is right now over a season.

Have an "if it aint broke, dont fix it" attitude to Rose's role.

Believe the starting job, if Rose comes back, will be between Vildoza and whoever the FO has their sights on in free agency, or in the draft. Payton (to Uptown's eternal regret) will likely
be gone. I think the FO likes Rose where he is. Feel the same way, if true.

Not sure why you think the first 5 minutes are more taxing to Rose as opposed to the last 5 minutes in a close game when the intensity levels
are much more intense. In fact, I think the way Thibs is using Rose is not doing him any justice. Most nights, Rose will come in at the 4 minute mark of the 1st and 3rd quarters, and will play 16 straight minutes, in each half. In the 4th, he's facing rested Starters for the final 5 minutes of each game. Thibs has been great for the most part, but I can't stand some of his substitution patterns.

Hopefully, we bring in a legit FA PG to take over the reigns that can give us 30 mins a night ad keep Rose between 18-24 minutes a night, depending. And, I will buy Paytons plane ticket and will personally uber his a** outta town

You want Rose to start against 5 guys who are fresh. The tempo will be faster, and Rose will have to keep up defensively. Havent you noticed that Rose plays at a relatively slow pace? He doesnt push the tempo, in large part because of his knee surgeries.

I honestly cant believe after missing more games over the span of years, than any other player. After finally starting to hold up when he was put on minutes restrictions in Detroit. That you want to tempt fate again. The end of games is where we need Rose right now. You start him, and make him finiah as well, he's going to get cold on the bench, unless you give him more minutes. Rose is doing great where he is, and he's been healthy (aside from Covid) why not take that as a victory? Why push our luck with a player who has a rep for not being able to stay on the court?