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Is Mitchell Robinson still part of the team long term ?
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Knixkik
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3/28/2021  10:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  10:02 AM
I hope so, but with the consistent injuries, upcoming free agency and Noel holding it down, you have to wonder. The front office probably doesn’t know, but with one year left on the cheap deal they will have to make a decision. Knicks could easily bring back Noel on a fair multi year deal, Gibson for 1 year, draft a big man like Isaiah Jackson or Charles Bassey and even bring in someone like Robin Lopez on a 1 year deal. They can move Robinson for a future pick or in a sign and trade for Lonzo Ball, which I think is very possible at this point. Not saying I want this or it’s even smart, but we still don’t know what Robinson is worth and in today’s league you can get by at center as long as you have a couple of decent role players like Noel and Gibson. I guess it depends on how they do the rest of the season and the extent of the injury, but it’s a very real possibility that the Knicks will move on from Mitch at some point. The main thing is do you extent Mitch for 15 mil a year or keep Noel for half that and keep more cap space open? What do you think ?
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3/28/2021  10:22 AM
The hand was a collision. The foot is a concern because it was not like he came down on someone’s foot or had contact with another player. So now we label him “Injury prone” Assumption of course is it does not lower his trade value in our eyes but the very reason we discuss this is concern and perhaps his X-rays and physiology will tell more than our assumptions. Why did his foot break? He come back too soon? Did Thibs break him? Did he arrogantly “Ready to go!!!”, and does he have the dreaded 7foot course? You know, big guys have foot problems? He has gotten bigger in his career and some bodies are not engineered to handle the physical pressure.
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3/28/2021  11:08 AM
Keep mitch
Draft a c with 1 of our picks for cheap long term depth.
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3/28/2021  11:09 AM
Knicks fans (like myself) had the same concerns about Marcus Camby. Would not like to repeat that mistake. Mitch is a big, lanky, player, like Camby. Mitch appears to be going through the same issues. Hope the Knicks arent scared off by this rash of injuries.

Mitch and Noel holding down the 5 spot for at least the next 3-4 years, should still be a goal. Worth the risk.
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3/28/2021  11:29 AM
One thing is clear..I don’t see them extended him this yr
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3/28/2021  12:05 PM
ekstarks94 wrote:One thing is clear..I don’t see them extended him this yr

Next year he is unrestricted. Don’t want this kid hitting an open market.
This was a big year for him $$$$. We’ll have to see what kind of fracture and if predicted to be a chronic issue.
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3/28/2021  12:16 PM
Is Mitch in the tradition of Bill Walton, Yao Ming, KP?
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3/28/2021  12:43 PM
Mitch is a mix of Chandler and Camby. He's a role player but really an impact player. He needs to be in better shape. He still cant set a good screen (but is getting better) and hasnt hit a jump shot in the NBA but when he's on the floor with good players he can really elevate the level of play of everyone around him and that is worth paying for.

Mitch is under contract next year. There is no rush. Lock up Noel who is 26 and will be a constant in the rotation as a backup and spot starter. Use the cap space to hopefully procure another impact guy.

Mitch still shows special talent... he's a key piece

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3/28/2021  12:44 PM
I suspect FO has questions about his maturity and may be concerned what happens after he gets paid. He should be an easy pump and dump next year if he starts the year healthy
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3/28/2021  12:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  12:54 PM
I want him at a discount. Lower than 15m. Closer to 10 and I’m happy.
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3/28/2021  12:50 PM
Nalod wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:One thing is clear..I don’t see them extended him this yr

Next year he is unrestricted. Don’t want this kid hitting an open market.
This was a big year for him $$$$. We’ll have to see what kind of fracture and if predicted to be a chronic issue.

Well the only saving grace for him is that it’s this year - he can get his foot healed in time for the contract year. (For those that talk about immaturity with agents, consider that he might possibly have the worst possible deal in the NBA)

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3/28/2021  12:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  1:00 PM
Noel turned down good money to chase a higher payout. Now he making 5m. Take 12m for 3 years Robinson and be happy. Improve in 3 years you will be 26 then get your 100m
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3/28/2021  1:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  1:25 PM
How are you going to invest in a player that can't stay on the court.

This is the exact reason I wanted to sign Drummond, Mitch has been unreliable.

Its a challenge to keep a lanky 7 footer healthy.

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3/28/2021  1:27 PM
If we are going to keep it about business , you cannot sign him long term @ a high price. He has proven he is injury prone , and it would bite us in the ass ..
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3/28/2021  2:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  2:39 PM
We all agree we want Robinson but at the right price?


If we want drummond for 3 years how much would it cost?


Is he worth that much? It’s not the 90s we not taking it all because of Drummond.

Are you willing to invest that much cap capital in drummond when you can get a scorer?

When we build a team with 3-5 scorers top tier guy like drummond will want to play with us for free like what’s going on with the Lakers and nets.

Why pay a guy 25m who is willing to go play with the laker show for pennies right now.

Build our team the right way first!!! Then have these all stars who never win a ring play with us for nothing like what is going on in the nba now!


They are not just building big 3s any more. They are building super super teams now.
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3/28/2021  3:19 PM
I feel he’s replaceable, especially after seeing how the team won more with Noel.
I’m concerned how much it will cost to resign him after his rookie contract is up, we will probably have to overpay.
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3/28/2021  3:43 PM
This injury may be advantageous for Knicks long-term.
This is Mitch's contract year, and frankly he was playing himself into around 18Million a year.
Knicks should be able to sign him to a significant discount after these injuries, which will allow the team to lock him up for another 3-4 years at a reasonable rate.

I am concerned Burke is playing himself into a very large pay increase and we do not have his Bird rights, so locking him up now is key...
If we could hold on to enough cap space for a max slot in 2022, we will be positioned to do great things in the next 5-6 years.

I am not sold on Bradley Beal... he has a decent players on that team and still they are horrible... pass!
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3/28/2021  3:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  4:10 PM
A few athletic long armed centers in this years draft. Maybe it’s time to look for Robinsons youthful replacement.

I feel atleast 4 centers in this draft would keep our ship heading in the right direction


(Fan of Robinson)

Not a fan of the price tag for what he does.

Not a good free throw shooter

Best thing he does is protect the rim and lobs.

Yes he can chase around a sf or sg in short bursts. But in these occasions is where he is likely to get hurt again.

Alters shot. That’s replaceable with a long arm guy

Rebounds.. a long arm guy can handle that

Protect rim.. guys in this draft can do that. Long arm guy again

So if we drafted another center he probably would just not be as Mobil on the perimeter and can’t catch runnng lobs at 11 ft in the air


But maybe the guy we draft actually bas a post move or two and can shoot free throws at 65 percent?


I know someone will pay him because similiar or better centers in the league got paid such and such.


But to me I see 8-13m player currently
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3/28/2021  4:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2021  4:23 PM
Might be time to get an asset for him


If we don’t extend him we are saving 14m. a drafted center late first rounder or early second would just cost about 1.8m for 4 years.

We could use that money to comfortably sign a pg this off-season

I would draft a center with the early second round pick we have and extend Robinsons option for next year and see how the market values him then trade him for an asset. (Or trade him to move up a spot or two to get into the first round with that late second.

It’s ashame because I want him to stay but I just don’t like his price


If he showed a jump shot or a baby hook I would put down 15m without hesitation


I haven’t seen evidence of neither once.
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3/28/2021  4:32 PM
nyvector16 wrote:This injury may be advantageous for Knicks long-term.
This is Mitch's contract year, and frankly he was playing himself into around 18Million a year.
Knicks should be able to sign him to a significant discount after these injuries, which will allow the team to lock him up for another 3-4 years at a reasonable rate.

I am concerned Burke is playing himself into a very large pay increase and we do not have his Bird rights, so locking him up now is key...
If we could hold on to enough cap space for a max slot in 2022, we will be positioned to do great things in the next 5-6 years.

I am not sold on Bradley Beal... he has a decent players on that team and still they are horrible... pass!

Even if he stayed healthy, no way in hell a defensive center gets 18 mill, that's a mill less than RANDLE.

Keep in mind we were 10-5 without him, and 2 of the loses bullock and and payton were out.

When Kobe was the lone star in LA, his team was just as bad as Beal and the Wizards. Would you not sign him as FA because he couldn't carry a young talentless team on his back

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