The question is can he really be a consistent 20ppg scorer.

If so this would drastically change our outlook as far as looking in free agency to find a player to sign with cap space

Hypothetically let’s say we can sign a guy who averaged about 25 ppg and he asks for 30-35m a season

Or we sign burks who can average 17-20 ppg and we pay him 15-20m a season. This would then allow us the cap space to fill out our bench with a very rounded out team

The direction we go will be decided in the next 5 months.

The next 5 months will decide our future for the next decade

Let’s just see if he can sustain this level of play

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If Alex burks can be 17-20 ppg it would be signing him for 3 years for 15-20m would be right

It’s a big if....

All we can do is see if he sustains this level of play.

If he does he needs more minutes/more shots and to be a starter.

Here's the scouting report:
veteran scorer
streaky shooter
competent secondary ball handler
average but willing defender
doesnt create much for teammates
good 1on1 scoring skill set from several zones
decent finisher and shows quickness despite being an average NBA athlete
coachable

GREAT in his current role. NOT a guy you are going to be happy with after you pay him. He's being paid like the 7th-8th guy in the rotation on a young/rebuilding team. He's bringing great value at his current price point.

There is nothing not to like about Burks.

I would be fine if our offseason was bringing everyone back and just drafting the 3 BPAs we can

resign
Rose/Burks/Bullock/Taj: similar price points
Noel: gonna have to pay him a bit but he's worth locking up for 4 years as a backup/spot starter. He's 26 and a great fit w/ Thibs for the right price. Can backup Mitch if we bring him back as well.
Frank: 2 years $8mm, stick around we'll work with you. He's my ****ing Ron Baker, NDour, Nate Wolters

fishmike wrote:Burks is nice in the role he's in which is pretty low pressure. Start expecting more you are going to be disappointed.

Here's the scouting report:
veteran scorer
streaky shooter
competent secondary ball handler
average but willing defender
doesnt create much for teammates
good 1on1 scoring skill set from several zones
decent finisher and shows quickness despite being an average NBA athlete
coachable

GREAT in his current role. NOT a guy you are going to be happy with after you pay him. He's being paid like the 7th-8th guy in the rotation on a young/rebuilding team. He's bringing great value at his current price point.

There is nothing not to like about Burks.

I would be fine if our offseason was bringing everyone back and just drafting the 3 BPAs we can

resign
Rose/Burks/Bullock/Taj: similar price points
Noel: gonna have to pay him a bit but he's worth locking up for 4 years as a backup/spot starter. He's 26 and a great fit w/ Thibs for the right price. Can backup Mitch if we bring him back as well.
Frank: 2 years $8mm, stick around we'll work with you. He's my ****ing Ron Baker, NDour, Nate Wolters

At some point he may turn into your Joe Alexander and we'll have to give up on him

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Burks is nice in the role he's in which is pretty low pressure. Start expecting more you are going to be disappointed.

Here's the scouting report:
veteran scorer
streaky shooter
competent secondary ball handler
average but willing defender
doesnt create much for teammates
good 1on1 scoring skill set from several zones
decent finisher and shows quickness despite being an average NBA athlete
coachable

GREAT in his current role. NOT a guy you are going to be happy with after you pay him. He's being paid like the 7th-8th guy in the rotation on a young/rebuilding team. He's bringing great value at his current price point.

There is nothing not to like about Burks.

I would be fine if our offseason was bringing everyone back and just drafting the 3 BPAs we can

resign
Rose/Burks/Bullock/Taj: similar price points
Noel: gonna have to pay him a bit but he's worth locking up for 4 years as a backup/spot starter. He's 26 and a great fit w/ Thibs for the right price. Can backup Mitch if we bring him back as well.
Frank: 2 years $8mm, stick around we'll work with you. He's my ****ing Ron Baker, NDour, Nate Wolters

At some point he may turn into your Joe Alexander and we'll have to give up on him

Continuity and chemistry matter. I think we are really seeing that with the Randle/Bullock/RJ trio. Those guys are really learning to play off each other and getting as a unit. The more of that the better

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Burks is nice in the role he's in which is pretty low pressure. Start expecting more you are going to be disappointed.

Here's the scouting report:
veteran scorer
streaky shooter
competent secondary ball handler
average but willing defender
doesnt create much for teammates
good 1on1 scoring skill set from several zones
decent finisher and shows quickness despite being an average NBA athlete
coachable

GREAT in his current role. NOT a guy you are going to be happy with after you pay him. He's being paid like the 7th-8th guy in the rotation on a young/rebuilding team. He's bringing great value at his current price point.

There is nothing not to like about Burks.

I would be fine if our offseason was bringing everyone back and just drafting the 3 BPAs we can

resign
Rose/Burks/Bullock/Taj: similar price points
Noel: gonna have to pay him a bit but he's worth locking up for 4 years as a backup/spot starter. He's 26 and a great fit w/ Thibs for the right price. Can backup Mitch if we bring him back as well.
Frank: 2 years $8mm, stick around we'll work with you. He's my ****ing Ron Baker, NDour, Nate Wolters

At some point he may turn into your Joe Alexander and we'll have to give up on him

we got a little time yet.

Continuity and chemistry matter. I think we are really seeing that with the Randle/Bullock/RJ trio. Those guys are really learning to play off each other and getting as a unit. The more of that the better

With Frank, it has to be a value contract for the Knicks, he just hasn't displayed enough IMHO. I am not sure if you are suggesting 2 years @ $4M each or $8M each.

This past year:

DRose - $7.8M (trade)
Burks - $6M
Payton - $6M
Noel - $5M
Bullock - $4M although he was a holdover from last year
Rivers - $3M

Those guys have displayed value for contract and have played tons of minutes for long stretches. Can Frank do the same? I am questioning that

$4mm a year (like Rivers/Bullock) and idk if Frank can do that or not. I do know even if he doesnt score his defense is still top flight, so the gamble (like with the other guys) is he outplays that contract. If he shows some durability and matures into a better offensive player we could have another young stud. If he doesnt we have a defensive sub and good practice guy who's a money balancer in a trade

OK, yeah at $4M I prob resign him

BRIGGS wrote:I’d sign him 3-4 years in the off season. I like bullock too but Burks is a priority— more diverse

I hope to bring back both. They are ideal role players and offer different skill sets that all good teams need. Bullock with the 3&D and Burks with the scoring and secondary playmaking.