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Nalod
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3/25/2021  10:24 PM
Again, another bad moment:

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/stephen-a-smith-james-dolan-national-embarrassment-shirt-01f1nj9xvxth

Steven A makes good points. But Let’s be real, Dolan did not throw the kid out, security did. Should the policy be changed? Yeah. Its petty. Give the kid a new ticket and adjust the policy. No profanity on shirts. Maybe have a policy they have to reverse it or give him a new shirt and he can pick “Offensive” shirt up after the game.

But......Knicks .500 and Dolan has spend a lot of money on new FO and the guy will spend. Why is the kid making a spectacle of himself? Its his right to protest but also its a private building. He tried the “Free speech thing”, but its not a pubic building. I don’t agree this kind of stuff really matters to Durant or Kyrie. SAS does take things a bit too far.

MSG, revise your policy and show some back bone. Winning basketball makes attention whore mongers actually look silly. ITs a bad look. Keep changing positive!

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joec32033
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3/25/2021  10:34 PM
Stupid decision by Dolan, but can we call this what it is. Idiot was baiting to see what would happen and get hisb15 minutes. There is literally no reason to wear that stupid **** this season.
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3/25/2021  11:16 PM
Hey Dolan is letting Rose et al run the show and paying all the salaries. Attention seeking douche means zero to me.
Nalod
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3/26/2021  8:54 AM
joec32033 wrote:Stupid decision by Dolan, but can we call this what it is. Idiot was baiting to see what would happen and get hisb15 minutes. There is literally no reason to wear that stupid **** this season.

I don’t think Dolan was sitting in his far room scanning for malcontents to bully. It was his security people who were following orders and perhaps went to far. It’s been a while since “ban Dolan” has been a thing.

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3/26/2021  9:03 AM
Wgas wgaf

It’s Dolan’s arena and team. Last I checked private businesses could refuse the right

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3/26/2021  9:04 AM
KnickDanger wrote:Hey Dolan is letting Rose et al run the show and paying all the salaries. Attention seeking douche means zero to me.

We are the 5th seed in the east. This clown is probably an angry Bulls fan trying to manufacture a scandal

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3/26/2021  9:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/26/2021  9:59 AM
Nalod wrote:
joec32033 wrote:Stupid decision by Dolan, but can we call this what it is. Idiot was baiting to see what would happen and get hisb15 minutes. There is literally no reason to wear that stupid **** this season.

I don’t think Dolan was sitting in his far room scanning for malcontents to bully. It was his security people who were following orders and perhaps went to far. It’s been a while since “ban Dolan” has been a thing.

Understood. What I meant was if it is a rule that has a ban/escorted out penalty, it is dumb.

The other hand is there is no reason to currently wear any of this specific targeted attire, especially to the Garden, where you KNOW there is a 50-50 chance there may be some type of situation.

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martin
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3/26/2021  10:39 AM
Nalod wrote:Again, another bad moment:

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/stephen-a-smith-james-dolan-national-embarrassment-shirt-01f1nj9xvxth

Steven A makes good points. But Let’s be real, Dolan did not throw the kid out, security did. Should the policy be changed? Yeah. Its petty. Give the kid a new ticket and adjust the policy. No profanity on shirts. Maybe have a policy they have to reverse it or give him a new shirt and he can pick “Offensive” shirt up after the game.

But......Knicks .500 and Dolan has spend a lot of money on new FO and the guy will spend. Why is the kid making a spectacle of himself? Its his right to protest but also its a private building. He tried the “Free speech thing”, but its not a pubic building. I don’t agree this kind of stuff really matters to Durant or Kyrie. SAS does take things a bit too far.

MSG, revise your policy and show some back bone. Winning basketball makes attention whore mongers actually look silly. ITs a bad look. Keep changing positive!

If someone walked into my business with that type of tshirt I would certainly tell them to **** off and ask them to leave.

Bro presumabley bought a ticket, paid money to make that dumbass tshirt, and was given the opportunity to get a free Knicks shirt and wear and then asked politely to leave?

You have to be either fully vaccinated or pay for a PCR test to get into the building?

He is a clown looking for attention.

The Knicks are worth watching.

What am I missing?

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3/26/2021  11:32 AM
What you are missing is that Dolan has abused fans by mismanaging this team for decades. I love this year's team but I certainly am not giving Dolan a pass for the past 2 decades. Fans in stadiums all over the country have worn things that disparaged bad teams and bad management - I've seen paper bags with much worse messages. I've never heard of a fan being kicked out. Only Dolan would be so petty.

Dolan is an ass and the shirt was pretty tame. Yes, he has the right to do it, but the fans in my view shouldn't put up with it. This is the most highly valued in the NBA and Dolan knows the fan base will stick around no matter what he does. Great fans - terrible owner.

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3/26/2021  1:25 PM
OldFan wrote:What you are missing is that Dolan has abused fans by mismanaging this team for decades. I love this year's team but I certainly am not giving Dolan a pass for the past 2 decades. Fans in stadiums all over the country have worn things that disparaged bad teams and bad management - I've seen paper bags with much worse messages. I've never heard of a fan being kicked out. Only Dolan would be so petty.

Dolan is an ass and the shirt was pretty tame. Yes, he has the right to do it, but the fans in my view shouldn't put up with it. This is the most highly valued in the NBA and Dolan knows the fan base will stick around no matter what he does. Great fans - terrible owner.

I think we all agree it was not a good look and I’d say it makes national news when its MSG and Hardly a blip in other arenas. Many are publically owned so its not an issue. Few Ventures are owned by the team.
Fans should’nt put up with it? Put up with what BTW? That Dolan has been an ass for years? We all agree he has been. Winning cures a lot. George Steinbrenner was an ******* for years. Was he abusive to fans? not really. But he was to players and a convicted felon for illegal campaign contributions. Not exactly violent crime to hate on, but fans liked his combative style. He was outspoken and crude. Trump like actually. But he won and became loved for it. He also mellowed out.
Dolan is a petulant child and we all hate that.
Point is Fans HAVE protested, HAVE worn shirts with messages and other than sell the team (be careful what you wish for) he has responded to fans outcry. Its why he hired PHil. Its why he fired Phil. Dolan has demonstrated a desire to win and spend. He has made awful choices and some just will take time to undo itself.

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3/26/2021  1:38 PM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Again, another bad moment:

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/stephen-a-smith-james-dolan-national-embarrassment-shirt-01f1nj9xvxth

Steven A makes good points. But Let’s be real, Dolan did not throw the kid out, security did. Should the policy be changed? Yeah. Its petty. Give the kid a new ticket and adjust the policy. No profanity on shirts. Maybe have a policy they have to reverse it or give him a new shirt and he can pick “Offensive” shirt up after the game.

But......Knicks .500 and Dolan has spend a lot of money on new FO and the guy will spend. Why is the kid making a spectacle of himself? Its his right to protest but also its a private building. He tried the “Free speech thing”, but its not a pubic building. I don’t agree this kind of stuff really matters to Durant or Kyrie. SAS does take things a bit too far.

MSG, revise your policy and show some back bone. Winning basketball makes attention whore mongers actually look silly. ITs a bad look. Keep changing positive!

If someone walked into my business with that type of tshirt I would certainly tell them to **** off and ask them to leave.

Bro presumabley bought a ticket, paid money to make that dumbass tshirt, and was given the opportunity to get a free Knicks shirt and wear and then asked politely to leave?

You have to be either fully vaccinated or pay for a PCR test to get into the building?

He is a clown looking for attention.

The Knicks are worth watching.

What am I missing?


There's just no reason why any of this is newsworthy. Its a weird policy but there's just so many things worth talking about than this.
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martin
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3/26/2021  1:41 PM
TPercy wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Again, another bad moment:

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/stephen-a-smith-james-dolan-national-embarrassment-shirt-01f1nj9xvxth

Steven A makes good points. But Let’s be real, Dolan did not throw the kid out, security did. Should the policy be changed? Yeah. Its petty. Give the kid a new ticket and adjust the policy. No profanity on shirts. Maybe have a policy they have to reverse it or give him a new shirt and he can pick “Offensive” shirt up after the game.

But......Knicks .500 and Dolan has spend a lot of money on new FO and the guy will spend. Why is the kid making a spectacle of himself? Its his right to protest but also its a private building. He tried the “Free speech thing”, but its not a pubic building. I don’t agree this kind of stuff really matters to Durant or Kyrie. SAS does take things a bit too far.

MSG, revise your policy and show some back bone. Winning basketball makes attention whore mongers actually look silly. ITs a bad look. Keep changing positive!

If someone walked into my business with that type of tshirt I would certainly tell them to **** off and ask them to leave.

Bro presumabley bought a ticket, paid money to make that dumbass tshirt, and was given the opportunity to get a free Knicks shirt and wear and then asked politely to leave?

You have to be either fully vaccinated or pay for a PCR test to get into the building?

He is a clown looking for attention.

The Knicks are worth watching.

What am I missing?


There's just no reason why any of this is newsworthy. Its a weird policy but there's just so many things worth talking about than this.

Agreed

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Nalod
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3/26/2021  2:10 PM
LOL, “Ban Banning Dolan”.....Cool!
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3/27/2021  10:35 AM
Outside of this incident its been near great organization!
New owners taking over like Fertitta and when Sarver killed suns are things to worry about.
Can’t undo history but if you can change the thought process (note my post from 5 years ago) you can change an outcome.
Dolan has made a lot of mistakes, so far Leon is not one of them.
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