At what stage does the FO see the Knicks rebuild at now? What path would they take to be a contender? Will they follow the path of the Lakers, trade away Randle, Lonzo and Ingram to trade for a superstar and sign another superstar? They gave away a promising young team for a veteran contender. The same thing the Nets did, traded away all their promising young core for a superstar big 3. Or will the knicks follow what the 76ers did drafted Embid and Simmons and build a contender around them?

The knicks are at a crossroad, will they go the path of the lakers/nets or the 75ers? Do you think the Knicks are just a few pieces away from going head to head with the Lakers, nets, bucks and 76ers? They still have 6 1st rounders and a boatload of 2nd rounders in the next 5 years

Is now the right time for to use up some draft capital to improve the roster with the hopes of attracting a big fish in the next free agency. I think the FO should gamble and get Lonzo by the deadline to show the superstars the knicks is finally ready to sign a superstar savior. I think the knicks are close to ending the rebuild, now is the time to weaponize the draft capital. I believe this will help convince a superstar to sign with the knicks.

I definitely prefer the way they are doing it though. I don't want a 28 or 29 year old star. I want guys that are 25/26 or younger that are developing well.

I would LOVE to see them get Ball. I think the position they are going to need that star player to play is that 2/3 spot (if RJ continues to develop maybe they have that guy in house, I love everything about his came. Guy screams future captain to me). Even still they need 1 more standout player. And trading guys like Barrett or Randle, or possibly IQ (super 6th man role, I think), is is a lateral trade to me for the future.

TheGame wrote:The Knicks still need to focus on acquiring and developing talent. We have three draft picks this year. In the offseason, the team should focus on signing someone like Lonzo Ball, who would be an upgrade over Payton but who should not cost too much. Resign Rose and continue to allow Quickley to develop as a Vinnie Johnson-type scorer off the bench, which is the best role for his game right now (unless he vastly improves his playmaking). Patience is the key. Don't go trading for Bradley Beal or the like. Try to get our big FA in the summer of 2022 or 2023. We really can build this team through the draft like Golden State built their team. Two years from now the Knicks should be real title contenders, with the growth of Barrett, Quickley, and Mitch, along with Randle's continued improved play.

Exactly

xblvdels3 wrote:

TheGame wrote:The Knicks still need to focus on acquiring and developing talent. We have three draft picks this year. In the offseason, the team should focus on signing someone like Lonzo Ball, who would be an upgrade over Payton but who should not cost too much. Resign Rose and continue to allow Quickley to develop as a Vinnie Johnson-type scorer off the bench, which is the best role for his game right now (unless he vastly improves his playmaking). Patience is the key. Don't go trading for Bradley Beal or the like. Try to get our big FA in the summer of 2022 or 2023. We really can build this team through the draft like Golden State built their team. Two years from now the Knicks should be real title contenders, with the growth of Barrett, Quickley, and Mitch, along with Randle's continued improved play.

Exactly

I agree that signing Lonzo Ball and drafting 3 players in the top 30+ picks is the late stages of the youth movement. I feel like this team can turn a corner with a player like Ball and hitting on these draft picks. The ceiling is high with this group.

xblvdels3 wrote:

TheGame wrote:The Knicks still need to focus on acquiring and developing talent. We have three draft picks this year. In the offseason, the team should focus on signing someone like Lonzo Ball, who would be an upgrade over Payton but who should not cost too much. Resign Rose and continue to allow Quickley to develop as a Vinnie Johnson-type scorer off the bench, which is the best role for his game right now (unless he vastly improves his playmaking). Patience is the key. Don't go trading for Bradley Beal or the like. Try to get our big FA in the summer of 2022 or 2023. We really can build this team through the draft like Golden State built their team. Two years from now the Knicks should be real title contenders, with the growth of Barrett, Quickley, and Mitch, along with Randle's continued improved play.

Exactly

I felt the knicks are close considering they were the worst team last year and they made a great jump forward propelled by the team's player development. But yah, your right "the game" we are still in the later part of talent acquisition. At this stage, i just dont want the FO to skips some steps, just stay the course, hopefully we can get Lonzo on this team via a reasonable signing in free agency or a reasonable trade package by the deadline then we are in a position to sign a superstar this free agency or the next.

Once Dolan hired Rose and Rose hired Thibs, we are no longer in rebuild mode in the traditional sense. Rose was hired because of his connections around the league and his ability to perhaps attract free agents and or get disgruntled players to force their way here. Rose and WWW makes this place more desirable than it has been in years because they are connected. Also, you do not hire 63 year old Thibs to rebuild. You hire him because you want to win now and build an identity. Seems like there's an incentive to make the playoffs, which I guess the Knicks think that will make them more attractive to free agents, in addition to Rose and Wes's presence.

In a nut-shell, we are no longer rebuilding if you consider, last year being a one year rebuild.

Uptown wrote:I go back and forth on this. Clearly, we cleared massive cap-space to chase KD and to some extent Kyrie. We also tanked in hopes of maybe getting Zion. We struck out on all 3, so we backed into somewhat of a rebuild last year.

Once Dolan hired Rose and Rose hired Thibs, we are no longer in rebuild mode in the traditional sense. Rose was hired because of his connections around the league and his ability to perhaps attract free agents and or get disgruntled players to force their way here. Rose and WWW makes this place more desirable than it has been in years because they are connected. Also, you do not hire 63 year old Thibs to rebuild. You hire him because you want to win now and build an identity. Seems like there's an incentive to make the playoffs, which I guess the Knicks think that will make them more attractive to free agents, in addition to Rose and Wes's presence.

In a nut-shell, we are no longer rebuilding if you consider, last year being a one year rebuild.

The rebuild started with Phil despite the deniers to the contrary.

Phil held onto our picks, kicked Melo and KP in the ass, and built the G-league infrastructure with Miller.
Last year never happens without Phil.