For all we know Perry might leave and get his own gig for another team that looks at what he has done to earn the respect that got him here and in some ways confirmed he is a good exec. Short of getting Masai its always better to grow your own dude the starphuch for another. Hope he stays. Money should not be a problem. That or perhaps its in the cards to promote Zanin all along.
If you can turn around the knicks as he helped, you can make it anywhere............
Part 2. Knick fans guide to survival.

Things are going swimmingly well thus far but the team other than mitch has been light on Injury and fans come to expect good things. We might regress so much due to Thibs insane attention to detail but other teams might be lagging in their development and catch up. Not that I wish this but just appreciating what we got and recaps the team is over reaching. Which is fun by the way!!

Anyway, happy days are here again and traumatized Knicks fans subconsciously wait for the string of bad news. But over-achieving is a major reason I love this team. Was thinking today how much I prefer this to if KD and Kyrie had signed with the Knicks. That likely puts me in a minority in modern times, but I sense I am not alone in that outlook on this board.

hezonja, D. Smith, Elf, Vonleh, Elf again. Last year lets get enough vets so we can be just good enough to almost get out of lottery...

i think the fact that they brought in essentially a whole new FO and a coach is far more likely the cause of our recent modest success than anything to do with Perry -- and i say this still liking KK and hoping he can get a handful of minutes now and again, whereas Mikal and Myles are getting steady minutes and making contributions to their respective teams

BigDaddyG wrote:

Chandler wrote:Perry made us suck so bad we could only get better that's about it.

hezonja, D. Smith, Elf, Vonleh, Elf again. Last year lets get enough vets so we can be just good enough to almost get out of lottery...

i think the fact that they brought in essentially a whole new FO and a coach is far more likely the cause of our recent modest success than anything to do with Perry -- and i say this still liking KK and hoping he can get a handful of minutes now and again, whereas Mikal and Myles are getting steady minutes and making contributions to their respective teams

His best move was the hatchet job he did on Mills. Little did we realize how much he was changing the course of the franchise.

Yup...by getting rid of Mills, it paved the way for the Morris trade to the Clips which gave us an opportunity to draft Quickley. Cap space and draft capital was created and collected, mostly under Perry's watch.

Knixkik wrote:He's a solid GM for a guy like Rose. He's been around the block and loaded with experience. He's not a great GM by any stretch, but has done some good things. Seems like a guy that does the little things so Rose/Wes can focus on the big picture.

Great GM’s have the Titles or have mastered thru the years like Presti.
Morey was great in my book despite the lack of titles. Dude just kept it relevant and pulled rabbits out of the hat year after year.
Funny though how close Ainge got to nailing it. I mean really was. Masai Toronto teams kept coming up short and he pushed the chips in and rented Kawahi. Then in the finals, one they were going to likely get swept both Klay and Durant broke. PHilly gets there they are likely champs and Brett Brown is hailed as gold.
Boston nearly made it without Haywood in his first year but freak ankle break in his first half in boston derailed it.
Perry is not great. Has not been on the job long enough really. I want a guy that has YET to be great. I say that because I want THAT GUY to make it great. Getting guy that was great somewhere else is not that certain. Sometimes the gods want it a certain way and not a damn thing you can do about it.
Hindsight gives fans the ability to call out things. Ainge came really close to pulling off some genius moves but the god said “I gave you the Redsox success so I don’t have to give you more Celtic love”. Let’s not forget before the tragic Reggie Lewis and Len Bia deaths, god gave them Joe Barry Carroll as the first pick and Auerbach traded it for Robert Parrish and the pick that was McHale. Fucking genius!
Masai was opportunistic to create the scenario of “got to get in the finals before you win it.” Be like us in 1999. It was a great run but we all knew SAS would clock us. But what if both Timmy and Manu got hurt?? We’d might have won.
Let’s hope we can say one day “Perry was a great GM”, and that it was while under contract with Knicks!!!!

knicks1248 wrote:Wait one minute, you Guys slammed this writer every chance you get and now he does a puff piece on perry and your hanging on to every word like he's a pulitzer prize winner .

After reading that article i have to ask myself, who the hell is STEVE MILLS because his name is not mention at all

We know everything had to be approved by mills, and Mills hired perry. The only reason Perry still had a job was his connection to CAA.

The sole reason this team is doing well has very little to do with perry and everything to do with the Staff which was brought in by Leon.

Perry is not drafting IQ without the coach who developed him already on our staff pushing hard for him, hell, he drafted knox base on fizdale pushing for him.

IMO Thibs and his staff turn sour grapes into fine wine, Perry is as avg as they come.

The only reason Randle is still here is because his value dipped so bad under fizdale the trade offers were probably trash, and Thibs wanted him back after watching him train and seeing the kind of shape he was in.

Check with me when perry can convince a star of some sort to sign here, other than that, I'll sing my praises all day to the wonderful coaching staff

What connection does Perry have with CAA?
Perry is likely a one year stay over to bridge the FO at a time we thought there would be a draft in June.
He might not be our guy going forward. We don’t know.
Perry is not drafting IQ without the pick. Nobody said Perry was a Nostradamus.
Thibs and the staff is getting 99% of the credit. You do know GM has a role in construction a coaching staff?
“Only reason randle is here”? You acting like you in the room with Thibs. Your making it up.
So your benchmark is us “signing a star”? I thought on the court matters. We 35 games in, team is dong well and all article did was say the pieces were in place BEFORE the season. Not “Perry is Red Auerbach making 1248 MIlls obsession look silly”. Relax dude, you need not take a **** in every room to know it stinks.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Wait one minute, you Guys slammed this writer every chance you get and now he does a puff piece on perry and your hanging on to every word like he's a pulitzer prize winner .

After reading that article i have to ask myself, who the hell is STEVE MILLS because his name is not mention at all

We know everything had to be approved by mills, and Mills hired perry. The only reason Perry still had a job was his connection to CAA.

The sole reason this team is doing well has very little to do with perry and everything to do with the Staff which was brought in by Leon.

Perry is not drafting IQ without the coach who developed him already on our staff pushing hard for him, hell, he drafted knox base on fizdale pushing for him.

IMO Thibs and his staff turn sour grapes into fine wine, Perry is as avg as they come.

The only reason Randle is still here is because his value dipped so bad under fizdale the trade offers were probably trash, and Thibs wanted him back after watching him train and seeing the kind of shape he was in.

Check with me when perry can convince a star of some sort to sign here, other than that, I'll sing my praises all day to the wonderful coaching staff

. We all know you don’t like Perry but you got to be somewhat objective. We all know you hate building through the draft but once again its being proven that was the right approach. Sure Thibs deserves tremendous credit but so does Perry and so do the players. I mean why not just be you happy for for a change that the Knicks are not only building the right way, but have a very good coach, and most importantly are winning

Stop saying building through the draft because you sound silly, 8 of the 10 man rotation are veterans., we have 2 promising rookies and that's about it, so how is that building through the draft.

We are building a culture of defense, accountability, and a strong work ethic. I like perry, just not as a GM, let's keep it a 100

You think because we drafted IQ and Toppin were building through the draft? lol

Building through the draft would have been trading away randle for a bunch of draft picks like OKC has done.

You can't retain Randle and ask him to stick around for the next few drafts and help develop 19 yr olds