Basically supports everything we have been talking about with numbers.

TLDR: Play Randle and Quickley together and the team much better.

EwingsGlass wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/2/26/22303166/immanuel-quickley-new-york-knicks

Basically supports everything we have been talking about with numbers.

TLDR: Play Randle and Quickley together and the team much better.

Says it all

"Quickley complements the other starters better than Payton. The latter is a traditional floor general who is at his best when he can control the tempo of the game and run the offense. But that’s what Randle and Barrett want to do. Those two don’t need another playmaker. They need someone like Quickley who can open up the floor and be a release valve in the half-court offense. Payton, who is shooting 24.1 percent from 3 on 1.8 attempts per game, destroys the spacing of a team that never had much to begin with. And while he’s a better defender than Quickley, Barrett and Bullock can handle the tough assignments on that end of the floor."

One thing tht bothers me is that Quickley is always portrayed as a smallish defensive liability. The kid has the same frame as Donovan Mitchell.

Uptown wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/2/26/22303166/immanuel-quickley-new-york-knicks

Basically supports everything we have been talking about with numbers.

TLDR: Play Randle and Quickley together and the team much better.

Thanks for posting. Giving Quickley minutes with Randle and RJ is a point I've made on more than one occasion. It just makes sense to the eye-test and the numbers provided in this article back-it up. Even when Quickley's shot is off, his presence opens-up the floor for everyone else.

The Knicks’ normal starters (Payton, Barrett, Reggie Bullock, Julius Randle, and Mitchell Robinson) are the most heavily played lineup in the league (391 minutes) despite having a net rating of just plus-0.9. Replace Payton with Quickley and that number skyrockets to plus-26 in 24 minutes.

Quickley complements the other starters better than Payton. The latter is a traditional floor general who is at his best when he can control the tempo of the game and run the offense. But that’s what Randle and Barrett want to do. Those two don’t need another playmaker. They need someone like Quickley who can open up the floor and be a release valve in the half-court offense. Payton, who is shooting 24.1 percent from 3 on 1.8 attempts per game, destroys the spacing of a team that never had much to begin with. And while he’s a better defender than Quickley, Barrett and Bullock can handle the tough assignments on that end of the floor.

The fit between Randle, who was just named to his first All-Star game, and Quickley is most important. Randle is a point forward who is averaging career highs in touches (82.2 per game) and assists (5.5). His ability to run point at his size means that a point-guard-sized shooter like Quickley doesn’t have to. It’s a perfect blend of skills. The lineup numbers indicate that the two should be playing together all the time:

That Plus-26 really surprised me. Can't imagine the Knicks analytics don't see this.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Uptown wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/2/26/22303166/immanuel-quickley-new-york-knicks

Basically supports everything we have been talking about with numbers.

TLDR: Play Randle and Quickley together and the team much better.

Thanks for posting. Giving Quickley minutes with Randle and RJ is a point I've made on more than one occasion. It just makes sense to the eye-test and the numbers provided in this article back-it up. Even when Quickley's shot is off, his presence opens-up the floor for everyone else.

The Knicks’ normal starters (Payton, Barrett, Reggie Bullock, Julius Randle, and Mitchell Robinson) are the most heavily played lineup in the league (391 minutes) despite having a net rating of just plus-0.9. Replace Payton with Quickley and that number skyrockets to plus-26 in 24 minutes.

Quickley complements the other starters better than Payton. The latter is a traditional floor general who is at his best when he can control the tempo of the game and run the offense. But that’s what Randle and Barrett want to do. Those two don’t need another playmaker. They need someone like Quickley who can open up the floor and be a release valve in the half-court offense. Payton, who is shooting 24.1 percent from 3 on 1.8 attempts per game, destroys the spacing of a team that never had much to begin with. And while he’s a better defender than Quickley, Barrett and Bullock can handle the tough assignments on that end of the floor.

The fit between Randle, who was just named to his first All-Star game, and Quickley is most important. Randle is a point forward who is averaging career highs in touches (82.2 per game) and assists (5.5). His ability to run point at his size means that a point-guard-sized shooter like Quickley doesn’t have to. It’s a perfect blend of skills. The lineup numbers indicate that the two should be playing together all the time:

That Plus-26 really surprised me. Can't imagine the Knicks analytics don't see this.

I'm pretty sure they see it. Its their job. The only thing the analytics team can do is provide the info to the coaching staff in which the coaches will use it as they see fit. Our hope is that Rose and or Wes step in and ship Payton out at the deadline.