Surprisingly, Rose has been smart, calculated and patient. The personnel he put in place from the people he surrounded himself in the front office to the coaching staff is very good. In just one offseason atleast we can see a positive direction. The team is now starting to establish an identity and the rest of the NBA is starting to notice it. Now the Knicks have a young core of players that can compete with other young teams like the Hawks, Memphis and the Bulls.

It seems like Rose might be ready make that big move to cash in on the young talent and draft capital they have accumulated. If Rose can make that move and still able to leave the young team of Mitch, Randle, Obi, Rj and Quickley intact and still have enough draft picks to fortify the bench i will give Rose a grade of A if that happens but as of now im happy with the direction this team is heading.

And watching DSJ's Gleague highlights would have made much more sense than having a proven scoring PG come off the bench in real games. And it made no sense to give up a 2nd rounder in the 40's.

Don't cry over tanking dreams. It will ruin your health.

knicks1248 wrote:IMO We have to make the Playoffs, Once we do that I feel the missing pieces will come.

Not surprised by the decent start, I felt the coaching staff and FO were all on the same page so i knew we would get the draft right, I knew thibs would have these dudes defending and hustling and playing scrappy.

The biggest surprise for me was not being able to land at least one significant piece in FA, either CP, FVV, Haywood, Woods

Shouldn't have come as a surprise. CP, Wood and FVV either went to or stayed at situations that looked far better at the time. Hayward got the surprise bag, but the Knicks were still fighting till the end. I'm sure free agents will look at the team more favorably now. But any meaningful moves will probably have to come through trade, because this free agency class is looking suspect.

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IMO We have to make the Playoffs, Once we do that I feel the missing pieces will come.

Not surprised by the decent start, I felt the coaching staff and FO were all on the same page so i knew we would get the draft right, I knew thibs would have these dudes defending and hustling and playing scrappy.

The biggest surprise for me was not being able to land at least one significant piece in FA, either CP, FVV, Haywood, Woods

Shouldn't have come as a surprise. CP, Wood and FVV either went to or stayed at situations that looked far better at the time. Hayward got the surprise bag, but the Knicks were still fighting till the end. I'm sure free agents will look at the team more favorably now. But any meaningful moves will probably have to come through trade, because this free agency class is looking suspect.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30403388/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2021-2022

If we are not sorted at PG next year offering Conley/Lowry 2 years $50mm is the only thing that makes sense and if someone emerges we can always trade one of those guys as they would have good value. There isnt a single guy there I would throw a 4 year deal at

fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IMO We have to make the Playoffs, Once we do that I feel the missing pieces will come.

Not surprised by the decent start, I felt the coaching staff and FO were all on the same page so i knew we would get the draft right, I knew thibs would have these dudes defending and hustling and playing scrappy.

The biggest surprise for me was not being able to land at least one significant piece in FA, either CP, FVV, Haywood, Woods

Shouldn't have come as a surprise. CP, Wood and FVV either went to or stayed at situations that looked far better at the time. Hayward got the surprise bag, but the Knicks were still fighting till the end. I'm sure free agents will look at the team more favorably now. But any meaningful moves will probably have to come through trade, because this free agency class is looking suspect.

Its terrible. Look at the players available and who do you want to throw money at?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30403388/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2021-2022

If we are not sorted at PG next year offering Conley/Lowry 2 years $50mm is the only thing that makes sense and if someone emerges we can always trade one of those guys as they would have good value. There isnt a single guy there I would throw a 4 year deal at

Jimbo5 wrote:Right after the Knicks traded Porzingis I thought they are destined to be bad for the next decade. The moves that Steve Mills did was frustrating to watch, its like his tenure was always in the neutral gear. The only good thing he did was maintaining Cap flexibility. I cant even credit him totally for Randle's emergance. Well maybe drafting RJ, atleast when the knicks missed out on Zion and Ja he didn't get cute and draft someone unexpected.

Surprisingly, Rose has been smart, calculated and patient. The personnel he put in place from the people he surrounded himself in the front office to the coaching staff is very good. In just one offseason atleast we can see a positive direction. The team is now starting to establish an identity and the rest of the NBA is starting to notice it. Now the Knicks have a young core of players that can compete with other young teams like the Hawks, Memphis and the Bulls.

It seems like Rose might be ready make that big move to cash in on the young talent and draft capital they have accumulated. If Rose can make that move and still able to leave the young team of Mitch, Randle, Obi, Rj and Quickley intact and still have enough draft picks to fortify the bench i will give Rose a grade of A if that happens but as of now im happy with the direction this team is heading.

I'm giving the FO an A as well so far. I think the only thing you may be able to ding them on is the Obi selection but that has plenty of time to pan out. Feel like the FO is super solid and so is the coaching staff and what we are seeing from game to game has proven that out.

Next year's free agent class is THIN and it's too bad the timing of when high end players come available is not until FA class of 2022. It'll be interesting to me how Leon and team handle the 2021 draft picks and any possible trade for any player that comes to market.

fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:IMO We have to make the Playoffs, Once we do that I feel the missing pieces will come.

Not surprised by the decent start, I felt the coaching staff and FO were all on the same page so i knew we would get the draft right, I knew thibs would have these dudes defending and hustling and playing scrappy.

The biggest surprise for me was not being able to land at least one significant piece in FA, either CP, FVV, Haywood, Woods

Shouldn't have come as a surprise. CP, Wood and FVV either went to or stayed at situations that looked far better at the time. Hayward got the surprise bag, but the Knicks were still fighting till the end. I'm sure free agents will look at the team more favorably now. But any meaningful moves will probably have to come through trade, because this free agency class is looking suspect.

Its terrible. Look at the players available and who do you want to throw money at?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30403388/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2021-2022

If we are not sorted at PG next year offering Conley/Lowry 2 years $50mm is the only thing that makes senseand if someone emerges we can always trade one of those guys as they would have good value. There isnt a single guy there I would throw a 4 year deal at

This is where I’m at as well. I’ve seen reports that Raptors will be moving on from Lowry so I think we just got to give him a bloated short term deal.

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Hollinger and Nate Duncan just did a "Futures" podcast and ranked the Knicks in the bottom 6. Even still, they acknowledged the Knicks had a reasonable argument for being in the next tier up. They just couldn't let go off the lol Knicks rep developed from the past two decades.

It's cool, Knicks currently rank them in the bottom 2 of being able to assess teams

We are still waiting to draft a star, trade for one or sign one.

Hindsight is always 20/20 but man we should have maxed out Hayward last offseason. That would have been a good start but I certainly understand why they didnt at the time.

How much longer until Booker demands a trade here?