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HofstraBBall
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2/7/2021  4:13 PM
Missed game. Why did RJ only play 19?
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BigDaddyG
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2/7/2021  4:20 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Missed game. Why did RJ only play 19?

Miami's pressure D really took him and IQ out of the game.

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smackeddog
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2/7/2021  4:21 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Missed game. Why did RJ only play 19?

So Thibs could stick it to those that complained he’d break RJ by playing him 38+mins per game before the season started
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2/7/2021  4:26 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Missed game. Why did RJ only play 19?

Miami's pressure D really took him and IQ out of the game.

True? Explains why IQ also had a low scoring game. Thanks

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2/7/2021  4:31 PM
I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

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2/7/2021  4:32 PM
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

Just wait for Rose 😂. How many times a guard will blow by him on defense
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2/7/2021  4:41 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Missed game. Why did RJ only play 19?

RJ had an off game and legs just weren’t in it.

He also had 2 really big obvious flubs that normally get guys yanked immediately but RJ survived those but not the bad shooting. Also Burks and Bullock played and shot well.

3 on 1 break where he should have passed off to teammate and instead bricked layup. I think the second was a nonsensical cross court pass which I KNOW the staff has been talking to him (and Randle) about that ended in a TO

Stuff like that

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2/7/2021  4:43 PM
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

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2/7/2021  5:04 PM
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

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joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

I do get it and it's how all vet coaches treat those different types of players. I'm actually in agreement with it.

Short leash for the young guys who are learning. Longer one for vets

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2/7/2021  6:37 PM
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

I do get it and it's how all vet coaches treat those different types of players. I'm actually in agreement with it.

Short leash for the young guys who are learning. Longer one for vets

Some still have that tanking mentality, play the young guys no matter what

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2/7/2021  6:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2021  6:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

I do get it and it's how all vet coaches treat those different types of players. I'm actually in agreement with it.

Short leash for the young guys who are learning. Longer one for vets

Some still have that tanking mentality, play the young guys no matter what

What a ridiculous post. Not one person had mentioned tanking. In fact the only poster who had mentioned the word happens to be YOU. Fans want to win every game. We just Don’t buy into your Philosophy of “defense and drafting are not important”
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2/7/2021  10:34 PM
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

I do get it and it's how all vet coaches treat those different types of players. I'm actually in agreement with it.

Short leash for the young guys who are learning. Longer one for vets

Sorry Martin, but my reply was actually meant for Knicksfan.

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martin
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2/7/2021  10:42 PM
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
martin wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:I find it so hypocritical of Thibs to take young players out the moment they make a mistake, but guys like Payton can suck it up and their minutes just increase.

I’m souring up on Thibs.

There’s difference between making mistakes and just not hitting layups or shots though. Elf just missed shots today

Do you really not see the difference between pulling a young player for stupid mistakes and giving a veteran a little longer leash?

I do get it and it's how all vet coaches treat those different types of players. I'm actually in agreement with it.

Short leash for the young guys who are learning. Longer one for vets

Sorry Martin, but my reply was actually meant for Knicksfan.

ha OK, no worries

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2/8/2021  11:40 AM
Feel like collectively not enough kudos has been given to Randle: Dude is just balling out.

Some careless turnovers but he is playing at a high level

And on a back to back, feel like he was the only player that didn't show fatigue

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2/8/2021  11:46 AM
You put an average level playoff team PG on the Knicks and they beat Miami. Miami's current losing streak aside, I feel like that would have concluded 2 games against high level competition.

The Knicks got below average SG's, a C who doesn't even look at the basket, kaka for starting PG, RJ had an off game, rookie PG off bench but they are COMPETING.

Super well coached team IMHO

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2/8/2021  12:16 PM
martin wrote:Feel like collectively not enough kudos has been given to Randle: Dude is just balling out.

Some careless turnovers but he is playing at a high level

And on a back to back, feel like he was the only player that didn't show fatigue

I’ve always liked Randle. Even last year despite dribbling into too many double/triple teams leading to TO’s he still had a real productive year. This year he has taken it to the next level and deserves a ton of credit. I just admit I didn’t expect this sort of jump from him but I felt he was capable of it.
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2/8/2021  12:57 PM
martin wrote:Feel like collectively not enough kudos has been given to Randle: Dude is just balling out.

Some careless turnovers but he is playing at a high level

And on a back to back, feel like he was the only player that didn't show fatigue

Kudos. His success is testament to the idiocy of haters.
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2/8/2021  1:00 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
martin wrote:Feel like collectively not enough kudos has been given to Randle: Dude is just balling out.

Some careless turnovers but he is playing at a high level

And on a back to back, feel like he was the only player that didn't show fatigue

Kudos. His success is testament to the idiocy of haters.

Ha and by haters you mean like 95+% of Knicks fans last year

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2/8/2021  3:31 PM
martin wrote:Feel like collectively not enough kudos has been given to Randle: Dude is just balling out.

Some careless turnovers but he is playing at a high level

And on a back to back, feel like he was the only player that didn't show fatigue

Such an amazing story. His game this season has been invaluable and as much deserving credit Thibs get for our transformation, Randle deserves the same. His best games are stunning and even his bad ones still keep us in competitive. I think the greatest compliment he could get right now is admit that all of us that came in with a tanking and rebuilding mentality admit that there could be a great scenario to consider where he is one of our main pieces in a Knicks team that can compete for real very soon.

Fans wanted to trade him for a bag of chips, yet he has turned into the player we hoped to get later in the future. I’m really happy for him because not many win over NY and much less after a bad first act.

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