i think we attacked the rim well but we also shot under 20% from three. story of the game really. even if shot meidocre- we probably win

would kk help overall on a night like tonight? if Obi got some more burn (he is way out of rhythm). maybe. easier to say probably on a night like tonight but other nights who knows.

burks played well. no one else played above their usual selves.

Sambakick wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:I missed the game, but does this mean fade for Cade is on again

Failin for Jalen

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Chandler wrote:my own sense is this was a continuation of Thibs shortening the bench and what that might mean. Sometimes it works. tonight it didnt

i think we attacked the rim well but we also shot under 20% from three. story of the game really. even if shot meidocre- we probably win

would kk help overall on a night like tonight? if Obi got some more burn (he is way out of rhythm). maybe. easier to say probably on a night like tonight but other nights who knows.

burks played well. no one else played above their usual selves.

Thibs has been playing 10 guy rotation when players not hurt

martin wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Weird blaming Payton. Wasnt a blowout Had a chance to win it in the 4th, without him. More like our 3pt D.

Hatin' on Payton is just what some do. Need their scapegoat.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that

Payton was in the game when we went down by double digits, in the first half and the second half . Quick pulled us back out each time we just fell short on a back to back...

Thibs is finally starting to slowly realize Payton makes the game harder for our starters ... it’s only a matter of time before we don’t see Payton again and I’ll f u c k in dance a F u c k in jig when that happens.

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:my own sense is this was a continuation of Thibs shortening the bench and what that might mean. Sometimes it works. tonight it didnt

i think we attacked the rim well but we also shot under 20% from three. story of the game really. even if shot meidocre- we probably win

would kk help overall on a night like tonight? if Obi got some more burn (he is way out of rhythm). maybe. easier to say probably on a night like tonight but other nights who knows.

burks played well. no one else played above their usual selves.

Thibs has been playing 10 guy rotation when players not hurt

True. Bad word choice. Was thinking about no kk and limited minutes for obi.

fitzfarm wrote:

martin wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Weird blaming Payton. Wasnt a blowout Had a chance to win it in the 4th, without him. More like our 3pt D.

Hatin' on Payton is just what some do. Need their scapegoat.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that

Payton was in the game when we went down by double digits, in the first half and the second half . Quick pulled us back out each time we just fell short on a back to back...

Thibs is finally starting to slowly realize Payton makes the game harder for our starters ... it’s only a matter of time before we don’t see Payton again and I’ll f u c k in dance a F u c k in jig when that happens.

Quickley was minus 3, Payton -5. Quickley played 30 minutes last night to Payton's 17 min. If you want Quickley to finish as well, he'll be at the top of the league in minutes with RJ and Randle.

Dont see that as an easy choice to make with a rook. See Thibs and Derrick Rose.

martin wrote:

fwk00 wrote:Why is Frankie not replacing Payton?

Why is Frankie not replacing Rivers?

Why is Barrett shooting 3s in crunch time?

Why, why, why?

Makes NO sense.

Could literally be he has been OK'ed to play but realistically is not in game shape? Practices with 5v5 are slim to none and I'd guess it takes time to get up to in-game speed and such.

Some guys with some injuries just take time.

Thibs is also not the type to willy nilly throw or take guys out of rotation unless they are really failing (KNOX)

KnickDanger wrote:

martin wrote:

fwk00 wrote:Why is Frankie not replacing Payton?

Why is Frankie not replacing Rivers?

Why is Barrett shooting 3s in crunch time?

Why, why, why?

Makes NO sense.

Could literally be he has been OK'ed to play but realistically is not in game shape? Practices with 5v5 are slim to none and I'd guess it takes time to get up to in-game speed and such.

Some guys with some injuries just take time.

Thibs is also not the type to willy nilly throw or take guys out of rotation unless they are really failing (KNOX)

Gotta say my one quibble with the direction is why no Frank? I get he hasn't been able to stay on the court but unlike DSJ he has shown flashes and even a superior talent on defense. Not giving him a shot seems dumb -- I'll trust Thibs has his reasons.

So I don't get it. Frank is so injured he needs to wear a big old brace on the knee, we know it's not a small injury or that he is 100%. Took a professional level athlete who is 22 a month get back to a probably-could-play scenario. That's saying a lot.

Would you rather Thibs play quick-hook style substitutions where no player really gets to make mistakes and is fearful of getting pulled at any minute style of coaching?

We all hate Elf but Elf is just there is absorb minutes til IQ takes them; Thibs has all but told us that. After that, who are YOU pulling from the line up because of both poor play and poor effort? Cause it's the effort part (along with knucklehead play) that I think really will key Thibs. You have Rivers, Bullock, Burks, IQ, RJ that fall into the guys that you can take minutes away from that Frank would replace. I took Elf out of that string of players cause that's IQ's job.

Who loses minutes for Frank at this juncture to create an 11 man rotation?