[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Speaking of Defense...
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
Panos
Posts: 30121
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2004
Member: #520
10/27/2004  9:56 PM
...what's with letting Ron Mercer drop 30 on us last night?
He had season high of 14 last year!


[Edited by - panos on 10/27/2004 21:56:33]
AUTOADVERT
fishmike
Posts: 53866
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
10/27/2004  10:04 PM
who cares? You cant get your panties in a bunch every time some hoser has a good shooting night. Hell.. Shandon Anderson scored 35 points. TWICE. Its about wins and losses. Geeze
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
MaTT4281
Posts: 34915
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #538
USA
10/27/2004  10:05 PM
Relax, this is preseason, and besides, Mercer is going to be one of NJ's main scoring options this year.
If Mercer scored 30, that's saying we held everyone else on that team to 49 points. Either way, we won.
TheloniusMonk
Posts: 21470
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/15/2004
Member: #705
USA
10/27/2004  10:06 PM
Posted by Panos:

...what's with letting Ron Mercer drop 30 on us last night?
He had season high of 14 last year!


[Edited by - panos on 10/27/2004 21:56:33]

My take on it is:

1) We didn't do a good enough job guarding him lastnight. BUT...the guy hardly missed a shot. Hand in the face and all. I remember at one point during the game he like 11 for 13 shooting. When a guy's shooting like that there's not much u can do beside get a hand in his face. But at the same time IT'S RON MERCER. He won't shoot like that too often.

2) He was playing for San Antonio last season, who didn't need his offense. I believe that's why 14 points was his season high. In Jersey he will be allowed to take twice as many shots as oppose to when he was in San Antonio.

The knock on Mercer has never been his ability to score. It's always been his defense and dedication to the game all around.

He's going to be chucking them up this season so teams will have to pay a bit more attention to him.
'You can catch me in Hollis at the hero shop!' -Tony Yayo
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
10/27/2004  10:12 PM
Mercer's a talented player who just needs to get his head on straight.
Masterplan
Posts: 21571
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/9/2002
Member: #362
10/27/2004  10:28 PM
bad teams always inflate players stats. on a team like the Nets someone has to score a lot.
Masterplan
Posts: 21571
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/9/2002
Member: #362
10/27/2004  10:28 PM
bad teams always inflate players stats. on a team like the Nets someone has to score a lot.
teslawlo
Posts: 21482
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 7/13/2004
Member: #699
USA
10/27/2004  10:33 PM
Exactly what the guys above me have said.
Mercer is a good scorer but mediocre at many other facets of the game. No one ever said he couldn't score. Plus, it WAS one game in the preseason...
http://allknicks.com
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
10/28/2004  9:17 AM
you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
diderotn
Posts: 25657
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/15/2004
Member: #650
USA
10/28/2004  10:10 AM
Anyone can be stopped. It is all about the defensive rotation. TT should have been the primary guy guarding him. He is long and can force him to ulter his shots. Detroit has set an example on how to guard a shooter. Lenny could have guard this hot shooter with a much longer player a la Tayshun Prince, but chose not to do so. However, if it was a regular season game, I know for sure that Lenny would have gone to that defensive strategy.


Posted by TMS:

you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.
The true Knickabocker..........
Kwazimodal
Posts: 20896
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 8/3/2004
Member: #728
10/28/2004  10:42 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Anyone can be stopped. It is all about the defensive rotation. TT should have been the primary guy guarding him. He is long and can force him to ulter his shots. Detroit has set an example on how to guard a shooter. Lenny could have guard this hot shooter with a much longer player a la Tayshun Prince, but chose not to do so. However, if it was a regular season game, I know for sure that Lenny would have gone to that defensive strategy.




Posted by TMS:

you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.


I think he was just kidding
diderotn
Posts: 25657
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/15/2004
Member: #650
USA
10/28/2004  11:14 AM
Were you agreing with me or what???

Posted by Kwazimodal:
Posted by diderotn:

Anyone can be stopped. It is all about the defensive rotation. TT should have been the primary guy guarding him. He is long and can force him to ulter his shots. Detroit has set an example on how to guard a shooter. Lenny could have guard this hot shooter with a much longer player a la Tayshun Prince, but chose not to do so. However, if it was a regular season game, I know for sure that Lenny would have gone to that defensive strategy.




Posted by TMS:

you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.


I think he was just kidding
The true Knickabocker..........
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
10/28/2004  11:20 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Were you agreing with me or what???

Posted by Kwazimodal:
Posted by diderotn:

Anyone can be stopped. It is all about the defensive rotation. TT should have been the primary guy guarding him. He is long and can force him to ulter his shots. Detroit has set an example on how to guard a shooter. Lenny could have guard this hot shooter with a much longer player a la Tayshun Prince, but chose not to do so. However, if it was a regular season game, I know for sure that Lenny would have gone to that defensive strategy.




Posted by TMS:

you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.


I think he was just kidding
Kwazimodal
Posts: 20896
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 8/3/2004
Member: #728
10/28/2004  11:20 AM
I was just pointing out diderotn that I thought that he was being sarcastic about not being able to contain Mercer.As far as the game is concerned I didnt see it but if TT was having a good defensive night what you wrote sounds reasonable.
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
10/28/2004  11:20 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Were you agreing with me or what???

Posted by Kwazimodal:
Posted by diderotn:

Anyone can be stopped. It is all about the defensive rotation. TT should have been the primary guy guarding him. He is long and can force him to ulter his shots. Detroit has set an example on how to guard a shooter. Lenny could have guard this hot shooter with a much longer player a la Tayshun Prince, but chose not to do so. However, if it was a regular season game, I know for sure that Lenny would have gone to that defensive strategy.




Posted by TMS:

you can't stop Ron Mercer...you can only hope to contain him.


I think he was just kidding
He was pointing out that it looked like you didn't realize he was just kidding
lrluis
Posts: 20038
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/1/2002
Member: #306
10/28/2004  11:36 AM
I have got to put my 2-cents in about this defense stuff. And the need for defensive plays, and how any basketball coach IS or IS NOT a defensive coach. Obvious question but: does anyone here play basketball? How about soccer?

Basketball: On a post-play (low or high), where a defender is 1 foot away because he's using his arms, just body up to deny a spin/lateral move (you took away his space) or avoid a foul on a jump shot (you don't have to jump into him, you're already there).

Soccer: On a corner kick, where defenders just stand next to nobody hoping to block THE BALL, try hounding somebody and block THE PERSON. You won't touch the ball, but neither will he.

I've never made it professionally to either sport, of course, but it works for me.

My point is: there can never be a defensive play in soccer nor basketball, because everything is one-on-one. A press-and-trap (ok that's two-on-one but you have to get back to your man eventually), a switch (ok size might be a problem if you get caught with a bigger opponent), it's all individual defense.

Right, John Starks?
« Reply To Topic
Speaking of Defense...
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy