Posted by EnySpree:

Nazr and Baker are turning out to be mistakes. KT is going to be KT I can't stand him but he's the Knicks best center....geez that hurts.

Tim Thomas has been very nonchalant. Ariza has been getting the minutes and the nimbers...on top of that Timmy got hurt against Dallas.

Wouldn't it be funny if Ariza winds up starting due to injury?

Back to smelling trades.....Baker, Nazr, Moochie and Timmy are prime suspects.

DRAMA QUEEN! just bc isiah isnt talking about trades every day like he used to doesnt mean ones coming up. if anything, when he's talking about it, one may be coming up but doesnt always. so i dont see where ur logic comes to this conclusion.

Posted by firefly:

New York trades: SF Tim Thomas (14.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 31.6 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 31.9 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (7.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 20.1 minutes)
PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 12.8 minutes)
New York receives: SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.2 minutes)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (15.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.3 minutes)
PF Ira Newble (4.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 19.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -7.2 ppg, -6.4 rpg, and -2.4 apg.

Minnesota trades: SG Wally Szczerbiak (10.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.2 minutes)
Minnesota receives: C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 66 games)
Change in team outlook: +4.4 ppg, +6.2 rpg, and +2.5 apg.

Cleveland trades: C Zydrunas Illgauskas (15.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.3 minutes)
PF Ira Newble (4.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 19.4 minutes)
Cleveland receives: SF Tim Thomas (14.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 66 games)
C Nazr Mohammed (7.4 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 80 games)
Change in team outlook: +2.8 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -0.1 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to New York, Minnesota, and Cleveland being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New York, Minnesota, and Cleveland had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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You have been assigned Trade ID number 1965270


Send Minny $3m for Moochies contract. Newble is just a throwin. I'd prefer if we could get Diop instead (young, big, got potential), but thats not gonna happen. Plus, we get another roster space.

Dont think I've been too Knick friendly here. Have I?

Posted by teslawlo:

Firefly, that trade actually looks pretty good, though its just my first impressions. Good idea regarding Moochie's contract..

Posted by firefly:

The Knicks are the only team involved that I could see doing that trade.

Dont see why. The basis of the trade is that Mimmy want to get rid of Wally. So we give them KT who they are interested in, a tough enforcer-type player, and Moochie as filler, with the 3m to offset his C until its a valueable expiring one.

Cleveland get another high-level player in TT to take the limelight off The King. And, granted they lose their Centre, but they're getting one back as well. Right now, who are they playing at SF? LBJ. But only because they dont have much else. Put TT in there, move LBJ to SG where he belongs, and they dont have to be playing two PG's in their backcourt anymore. They might be losing Z, but this trade makes them a much more conplete team.