No wonder 1248 doesn't include any suggestions. There are none to make.

TLover wrote:

TPercy wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

TLover wrote:Paying Mitch big $ could is risk but he does a lot to stabilize our defense.. Noel does this as well but a stretch 5 would be nice. Markkanen at 23yrs would be guy you look at.

Is Lauri a 5? Not sure the bulls even know. Also, not sure he's Thibs type of guy.

Yeah he isn’t a 5. Not a rim protecting one anyway. But it would be nice to acquire a stretch 5 for flexibility purposes. Gorgui Dieng is a good shout for us in FA. Wouldn’t start but would be a nice option to have imo.

Taking a flier on Mo Bomba could be worth it. Let’s see what he does against us tonight.

If he costs us either Frank or Knox and a very future or very protective second I am in, but that is my limit.

Nothing against Mitch, but we have been very good without him on both ends

knicks1248 wrote:After 6 straight wins, and we have won 80% of our games with Mitch out, your telling me you wouldn't used him in a trade to either move up in the draft or in a trade to level up the PG or wing position.

Nothing against Mitch, but we have been very good without him on both ends

It's a losers mentality to trade a defensive young asset for what, an expensive, inefficient or older asset? You do this if it makes u a championship contender.

We also have a defensive coach...a defensive culture....and known around the league as a top defensive team. And the 1st thing we shouldnt do is trade our best defensive anker because he's injured.

This is the old FO type move. The days of trading away young cheap assets, without a plan is gone. Right now trading mitch is option #120....option #1 is to develop the young assets we currently have, which includes mitch.

The only way I would deviate from that plan, is if we was 1 trade away from being a championship team. Right now that's not the case. Mitch is learning from Noel and Thibs. Mitch is also someone with more potential than Noel based on age alone. If anybody would be traded, I think they trade Noel b4 Mitch. What I'm hoping is Noels recent performance has reduced the asking price for Mitch, since we have shown that we can still win without him in the short-term.

I think the goal is to keep them both on the roster, since we still not a championship team...and mitch / Noel are alwaysinjured. Use the draft or trade end of bench players to fill in the roster holes. When it's time to add a super star, then we can talk about trading picks and young assets like mitch.

Noel has been a beast, but whose out there that’s going to offer him big bucks? Maybe GS? Boston doesn’t have room, so the suitors are limited.

It’s hard to have a real impact on this Knicks team as a big. Randle is operating everywhere and they rarely run anything for Mitch, Obi whose skill set would be used far better in a pick and roll.

Noel plays hard, I think he’s played himself into the 7-9MM range in the offseason.

technomaster wrote:Yeah, centers in generally are not commanding big bucks. Consider Dwight Howard, NBA champion, former rebounding champ/DPOTY... on a 1 year, $2.56m deal. These are crazy times!

They say it's a guards league. Tell that to Utah center.

Its why Utah is elite. Mil is elite. You know who might be Atl's most important guy? Capella. The game has changed but attacking the rim for easy buckets has NOT and if you leave that hole open its gonna get abused.

jrodmc wrote:Some of the FA suggestions online are pretty putrid. FluTyson? Ilysova? Bleh.

No wonder 1248 doesn't include any suggestions. There are none to make.

We would be the close to the same team next year: (except you upgrade Elf with a borderline allstar in Conley/Schroder)
PG Conley/Schroder
SG RJ
SF Bullock
PF Randle
C Mitch
Bench rotation: Rose/IQ/Obi/Noel
pipeline/depth: Taj/FRP/FRP

That's a big deep defensive nine man rotation built around a really young core with a few vets sprinkled in. Even if Randle levels off at his current you still expect big strides from RJ/Mitch/IQ/Obi and of course the incoming rookies AND that group above can def hang with the top teams in the East.

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Some of the FA suggestions online are pretty putrid. FluTyson? Ilysova? Bleh.

No wonder 1248 doesn't include any suggestions. There are none to make.

Conley/Schroder. After that resign Noel/Bullock/Rose (we are losing Burks as a cap casualty I am assuming). Its a thin FA market, so hopefully they dont price themselves out. If you could sign one of those guys you add a big piece and keep all your young guys/picks depth.

We would be the close to the same team next year: (except you upgrade Elf with a borderline allstar in Conley/Schroder)
PG Conley/Schroder
SG RJ
SF Bullock
PF Randle
C Mitch
Bench rotation: Rose/IQ/Obi/Noel
pipeline/depth: Taj/FRP/FRP

That's a big deep defensive nine man rotation built around a really young core with a few vets sprinkled in. Even if Randle levels off at his current you still expect big strides from RJ/Mitch/IQ/Obi and of course the incoming rookies AND that group above can def hang with the top teams in the East.

fish your so full of sht it's hilarious, you flip flop worse than BRIGGS

Your the same person that shot down my suggestion of any trade for schroder (back when ATL was looking to trade him) bledsoe (when he was with the Suns) Rose (you hated him because he didn't pass to KP).

I suggested trading MITCH OR Noel to address other needs like help in the shooting and PG department..I would even trade him for a player Like Isaiah Stewart.

You always late to the party with your IDEAS, it's not until it becomes super obvious(kp wanted out..for example) that you change your tune...despite me mention certain thing months or even a yr before it happens.

Mark my words, MITCH WILL NOT BE A KNICK FOR LONG, he has maturity issues, and he's a slow learner, and with the success we are having this season (without him) makes it easier to move him for a missing piece.

Don't get this twisted, I'll more than happy to keep him if we can address our needs without trading him

Genuine question:

How much trade value does a slow learner with maturity issues whose team was fine without him have?

Knickoftime wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Some of the FA suggestions online are pretty putrid. FluTyson? Ilysova? Bleh.

No wonder 1248 doesn't include any suggestions. There are none to make.

Conley/Schroder. After that resign Noel/Bullock/Rose (we are losing Burks as a cap casualty I am assuming). Its a thin FA market, so hopefully they dont price themselves out. If you could sign one of those guys you add a big piece and keep all your young guys/picks depth.

We would be the close to the same team next year: (except you upgrade Elf with a borderline allstar in Conley/Schroder)
PG Conley/Schroder
SG RJ
SF Bullock
PF Randle
C Mitch
Bench rotation: Rose/IQ/Obi/Noel
pipeline/depth: Taj/FRP/FRP

That's a big deep defensive nine man rotation built around a really young core with a few vets sprinkled in. Even if Randle levels off at his current you still expect big strides from RJ/Mitch/IQ/Obi and of course the incoming rookies AND that group above can def hang with the top teams in the East.

fish your so full of sht it's hilarious, you flip flop worse than BRIGGS

Your the same person that shot down my suggestion of any trade for schroder (back when ATL was looking to trade him) bledsoe (when he was with the Suns) Rose (you hated him because he didn't pass to KP).

I suggested trading MITCH OR Noel to address other needs like help in the shooting and PG department..I would even trade him for a player Like Isaiah Stewart.

You always late to the party with your IDEAS, it's not until it becomes super obvious(kp wanted out..for example) that you change your tune...despite me mention certain thing months or even a yr before it happens.

Mark my words, MITCH WILL NOT BE A KNICK FOR LONG, he has maturity issues, and he's a slow learner, and with the success we are having this season (without him) makes it easier to move him for a missing piece.

Don't get this twisted, I'll more than happy to keep him if we can address our needs without trading him

Genuine question:

How much trade value does a slow learner with maturity issues whose team was fine without him have?