Knixkik wrote:Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.

Ok I’ll keep an eye on how he progresses.

Knixkik wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.

Ok I’ll keep an eye on how he progresses.

Yeah i think Kispert and Moody best in our range right now if we are in that 8-13 range. Kispert is a sure-fire 3pt sniper who should provide Joe Harris/ Duncan Robinson level production once he adjusts to the NBA. Moody will take a little longer, rightfully so, as he will only be 19 for his entire rookie year, but offers more long-term upside as a 2-way player.

I agree. Kispert is the most important piece to me. We need a sniper. Games are won and loss in today’s games on whether you are hitting your 3s or not. I see him as a joe Harris for us. Kispert is a player who will demand a joe Harris like contract in 8 years. We can use his talents for a cheap rate for as long as possible.

Same with moody I’ll be checking his attributes.

Def I see us in 8-15 range

They should be able to get another 25-30 pick for a trade with dsj etc and our 18m in cap space anotber team could utilize.

Or trade for a guy like victor (trading for a guy not my fav move. Keep adding young talent. Keep our cap space ready for when a top guy becomes a free agent)

Offer the bag 💰 to a vet pg and wing who wants a 1 year deal with a team option for the second year.

fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

Kispert isn't a bad defender though. He will at least be able to defend in the NBA and not be a complete liability. But this is also the reason I rate Moody higher. He can really defend.

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

Kispert isn't a bad defender though. He will at least be able to defend in the NBA and not be a complete liability. But this is also the reason I rate Moody higher. He can really defend.

I with you. Honestly just glanced over him and had a bad taste in my mouth from watching nesmith lol

if he defends and shoots he is the best first pick 8-15

fishmike wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.

Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also

My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

I know your gm strategy. Just trade all our picks for the next 3 years and every guy on our team for 3 old superstars right?

The flaw to this is there are only like 3 superstars in the League who can deliver a championship and they are already on teams hoping to win.

Yes we need a Korber replica. Games are won and lost in this league based on hitting shots or not. Especially 3s!!

We are building a (team) while leaving cap space for a superstar like morant zion in 2 years to join the party

In the meantime we will be a playoff battle tested group of young guys missing 1 or 2 pieces to win it all.

This is how you build

Yesss sign me up for a korver replica 🙏 with our 16 pick!

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza

Then you are a (casual)

xblvdels3 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.

Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also

My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

I know your gm strategy. Just trade all our picks for the next 3 years and every guy on our team for 3 old superstars right?

The flaw to this is there are only like 3 superstars in the League who can deliver a championship and they are already on teams hoping to win.

Yes we need a Korber replica. Games are won and lost in this league based on hitting shots or not. Especially 3s!!

We are building a (team) while leaving cap space for a superstar like morant zion in 2 years to join the party

In the meantime we will be a playoff battle tested group of young guys missing 1 or 2 pieces to win it all.

This is how you build

Yesss sign me up for a korver replica 🙏 with our 16 pick!

It appears your gm strategy is to draft subpar athletes and then sign other team's restricted free agents. Good stuff

xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza

Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

xblvdels3 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza

Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

Yea he looks good 👍

I'm interested in Cam Thomas and Bouknight in general, but both sort of scream future 6th man than starter. Both are professional scorers who will fill it up but won't have much to bring to the table off the ball. Jordan Clarkson type players. But you could do much worse in the second half of the lottery. But I see Moody and Kispert having more starter upside. Today it's as much about role than talent. That's why teams like Miami can continuously grab good NBA starters in the middle of the first round.