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1/3/2021  1:21 PM
Thibs stuck him in there late in the Indy game to help protect the lead. He’s a ball handler who hits 90% of his free throws. What a valuable piece to have. It’s like having a good kicker in the NFL. Someone who can protect the lead for you or win close games at the line and not screw up. I expect him to be in there most of the time we are ahead in close games, and rightfully so. I don’t expect him to develop into a superstar or anything like that but his unique skill set is really hard to find in the league today. He seems like he will eventually be a starting guard and is well-equipped for the big moments. He just appears to have that “it” factor.
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1/3/2021  2:10 PM
Knixkik wrote:Thibs stuck him in there late in the Indy game to help protect the lead. He’s a ball handler who hits 90% of his free throws. What a valuable piece to have. It’s like having a good kicker in the NFL. Someone who can protect the lead for you or win close games at the line and not screw up. I expect him to be in there most of the time we are ahead in close games, and rightfully so. I don’t expect him to develop into a superstar or anything like that but his unique skill set is really hard to find in the league today. He seems like he will eventually be a starting guard and is well-equipped for the big moments. He just appears to have that “it” factor.

Absolutely. I’m more impressed with IQ selection than OB1. Keep reminding myself that so far this is a minute sample size, and not to get too carried away.

Hard to speculate what the future will hold. I hope that his minutes grow and he develops into our starting pg. Not sure he fits the traditional pass first pg mould, but he seems to have that ability to get to the line and shoot ft’s at a high clip. Solid jumper.

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1/3/2021  3:04 PM
Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

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1/3/2021  3:11 PM
MS wrote:Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

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1/4/2021  9:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/4/2021  9:33 AM
MS wrote:Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

Yeah he actually does have some Lowry to his game. It took Lowry a long time to develop into a PG. Quickley has some clear skills that fit today's game. He can really shoot, draw fouls, and has that floater. I'm hoping he follows Murray, Booker, Herro etc in the line of Kentucky guys who were overlooked due to their roles in college.

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1/4/2021  10:20 AM
This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.
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1/4/2021  10:32 AM
Next step for him after establishing consistency with things he’s already good at( ball handling, shooting, defense) will be some off the dribble moves. A couple stepbacks/hesis to create his own would be great, but I get it. Baby steps.
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1/4/2021  10:51 AM
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

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1/4/2021  11:12 AM
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

you are asking a guy who thought Trey Burke was the path to us winning 50 games

IQ has a great physical profile for a 2 way PG. He's got that quick first step and long wingspan. That floater and ability to get into the paint and hit that thing at high %s are really impressive. He's def the starter of the future here, or a great sub playing big minutes. He looks fantastic and since we have a real coach we are seeing his skill set is legit. He can shoot, hit FTs, drive the lane and take good care of the ball. He's a really nice piece moving forward

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1/4/2021  11:57 AM
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

you are asking a guy who thought Trey Burke was the path to us winning 50 games

IQ has a great physical profile for a 2 way PG. He's got that quick first step and long wingspan. That floater and ability to get into the paint and hit that thing at high %s are really impressive. He's def the starter of the future here, or a great sub playing big minutes. He looks fantastic and since we have a real coach we are seeing his skill set is legit. He can shoot, hit FTs, drive the lane and take good care of the ball. He's a really nice piece moving forward

I agree. He really reminds me of George Hill during his Indiana/Utah days. High level shooter/scorer/defender, not a natural playmaker, but hopefully competent enough. I'm hoping for that level of player eventually.

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1/4/2021  12:27 PM
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

you are asking a guy who thought Trey Burke was the path to us winning 50 games

IQ has a great physical profile for a 2 way PG. He's got that quick first step and long wingspan. That floater and ability to get into the paint and hit that thing at high %s are really impressive. He's def the starter of the future here, or a great sub playing big minutes. He looks fantastic and since we have a real coach we are seeing his skill set is legit. He can shoot, hit FTs, drive the lane and take good care of the ball. He's a really nice piece moving forward

I agree. He really reminds me of George Hill during his Indiana/Utah days. High level shooter/scorer/defender, not a natural playmaker, but hopefully competent enough. I'm hoping for that level of player eventually.

playmaking is nice but its also the one thing that can be worked around. Its harder to hide bad shooting or defense than play making. A good team concept can make up for that. We are seeing RJ and Randle work nicely as facilitators. You'll be able to add Rivers to that soon enough as well.
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1/4/2021  12:28 PM
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

you are asking a guy who thought Trey Burke was the path to us winning 50 games

IQ has a great physical profile for a 2 way PG. He's got that quick first step and long wingspan. That floater and ability to get into the paint and hit that thing at high %s are really impressive. He's def the starter of the future here, or a great sub playing big minutes. He looks fantastic and since we have a real coach we are seeing his skill set is legit. He can shoot, hit FTs, drive the lane and take good care of the ball. He's a really nice piece moving forward

I agree. He really reminds me of George Hill during his Indiana/Utah days. High level shooter/scorer/defender, not a natural playmaker, but hopefully competent enough. I'm hoping for that level of player eventually.

I absolutely 100% without a fraction of a doubt think he can and will be as good as Lillard/donovan Mitchell/Cj.

He has the coaching staff in place (payne, thibs, bryant, who have all praise this kid) to help get him there

He has the work ethic to get him there

that extra yr in college made his learning curb a little easier (as we all can see)

He's not afraid to take it to the hole, he can shoot from the perimeter, he moves with and without the ball and finds the open space, he has respectable court vision. So with having all of that going for him as a rookie, he only has to get wiser and stronger going forward.

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1/4/2021  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/4/2021  12:32 PM
Love this kids game...I honestly think he would be starting if he didn't get hurt. Payton was so bad in the first two games, we had Burks running point. Quick probably would have taken over during the Milwaukee game but that's neither here nor there....

Quickley has the tools and skillset of the modern day lead guard. He can score at all three levels: the 3-ball, the floater in the lane and at the rim. I think I even saw him shooting with perfect form from near half-court during warmups. The tempo and pace of our offense picks-up immediately when he enters the game. The ball doesn't stick (like it does with Payton) and similar to the modern lead guard, he can play off the ball if needed because of his ability to shoot and run off flare screens (see what he did in Kentucky).

Defensively he gets some tips and deflections because of his long arms and I love that he is constantly encouraging his teammates to talk on defense...We definitely got great value in Quickley @ 25!!! He has the potential of a top 10 pick...

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1/4/2021  12:32 PM
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

IQ career totals:

2 games. Both Vs. Indy. 27min.


From that Rainman got All star, or a floor of 6th man of the year.
Its ok to be happy and enjoy the player but do we not ride the bipolarcoaster a bit too much?
Let this kid get thru the leagues and scouts start to adjust and then lets see how he reacts.
Bad enough we got Briggs drawing the Mendoza line but now we got IQ jacket size for his HOF speech ready?

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1/4/2021  12:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/4/2021  12:39 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This kid will definitely be an all star or 6th man of the yr, and him and Rivers are making it easy to forget about the disappointing DSJ and Frank.

Do you really think he can be an allstar ?

you are asking a guy who thought Trey Burke was the path to us winning 50 games

IQ has a great physical profile for a 2 way PG. He's got that quick first step and long wingspan. That floater and ability to get into the paint and hit that thing at high %s are really impressive. He's def the starter of the future here, or a great sub playing big minutes. He looks fantastic and since we have a real coach we are seeing his skill set is legit. He can shoot, hit FTs, drive the lane and take good care of the ball. He's a really nice piece moving forward

I agree. He really reminds me of George Hill during his Indiana/Utah days. High level shooter/scorer/defender, not a natural playmaker, but hopefully competent enough. I'm hoping for that level of player eventually.

I absolutely 100% without a fraction of a doubt think he can and will be as good as Lillard/donovan Mitchell/Cj.

He has the coaching staff in place (payne, thibs, bryant, who have all praise this kid) to help get him there

He has the work ethic to get him there

that extra yr in college made his learning curb a little easier (as we all can see)

He's not afraid to take it to the hole, he can shoot from the perimeter, he moves with and without the ball and finds the open space, he has respectable court vision. So with having all of that going for him as a rookie, he only has to get wiser and stronger going forward.

One thing though is he's not a big time athlete. He can't get that separation off the dribble like Lillard or Mitchell. But his absolute ceiling could be in the McCollum range if everything goes perfect in his development.

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1/4/2021  1:11 PM
Dude reminds me of Mark Jax... In terms of body control. Mark was not a great athlete but he was smart and had a good feel for the game.
IQ ceiling is a Harden type of player who uses fundmentals and strength to create space. Im using him as an example as not a comparison. I don't dare say after less than a half hour of minutes on the floor we can start with any accolade drawing.

More than anything the enthusiasm for our new FO to move talent here and improve them. 6 games in we see some improved play from Randle, Payton, and yes, even RJ.
RJ and Knox are doing things differently. The results are not as apparent quite yet.

This is fun. We sniff .500 after 36 games I'll be plesently supprised!

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1/4/2021  1:50 PM
MS wrote:Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

include Brogdon too

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1/4/2021  1:58 PM
Uptown wrote:Love this kids game...I honestly think he would be starting if he didn't get hurt. Payton was so bad in the first two games, we had Burks running point. Quick probably would have taken over during the Milwaukee game but that's neither here nor there....

Quickley has the tools and skillset of the modern day lead guard. He can score at all three levels: the 3-ball, the floater in the lane and at the rim. I think I even saw him shooting with perfect form from near half-court during warmups. The tempo and pace of our offense picks-up immediately when he enters the game. The ball doesn't stick (like it does with Payton) and similar to the modern lead guard, he can play off the ball if needed because of his ability to shoot and run off flare screens (see what he did in Kentucky).

Defensively he gets some tips and deflections because of his long arms and I love that he is constantly encouraging his teammates to talk on defense...We definitely got great value in Quickley @ 25!!! He has the potential of a top 10 pick...

i agree with a lot of this.

i think Thib would still hold him from starting though for some time. but i agree on merit he could be starting

i wouldn't say "Modern" though because it seems "modern" now means Morant or Fox -- lightning quick, electric.

But he does have the skill set of the modern a great lead guard. agree re all your points. Would add his ability to drive and draw fouls will be key. Most efficient way to score. plus dual threat of tear drop or alley oop. plus drawing fouls softens the D. later in the game the opponent needs to play different; either soften their aggressiveness or risk defending you with a sub. Also Collapses D which in turn helps your transition D even if you miss the shot.

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1/4/2021  2:03 PM
Chandler wrote:
MS wrote:Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

include Brogdon too

Brogdon is a great comp actually. Thick kid, good shot, not spectacular but effective in many ways.

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1/4/2021  2:11 PM
Nalod wrote:
Chandler wrote:
MS wrote:Every year there is a Jimmy Butler, Joker type player that slips for whatever reason. Plenty of point guards like a Rondo, Parker, Arenas, Lowry all were late picks.

We are due some luck. He already has a strong floater, draws fouls at a great clip, can shoot the ball and handle an offense. Small sample but he changes the pace immediately.

Like his energy, no fear at all.

include Brogdon too

Brogdon is a great comp actually. Thick kid, good shot, not spectacular but effective in many ways.

You're right. He's smaller than Brodgon but skill wise it's a good comp.

A major underrated factor with Quickley

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