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Nalod
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12/23/2020  12:59 AM
Guys, its not media hate that reality could be we lose 50 games.
That Thibs is on board gives me hope but this roster has a way to go. Perhaps he can bring the further and faster along. WE won’t lose them all.

If I had to predict we go 22-50. Just seems like thats where bottom 5 go. Not hanging my hope on any free agent or College player. This is just gonna play it self out one game at at time.
spring will come, the Vaccine will bring antibodies and perhaps thru a new normal emerges a better team.
Hope eternal. No rah rah, just keeping it real with love.
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12/23/2020  5:41 AM
I agree. I think we win more like 25 games but not more. Atlanta has geared up, Charlotte should be a bit better as well. Orlando should slip outside the playoff picture.
The bottom teams in the east should be Chicago, Cleveland and us.
I expect RJ to improve in efficiency and the duo Burks, Rivers to bring more positive than negative.
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12/23/2020  7:37 AM
If this team stays healthy, we could surprise some times by effort and being prepared. I’m hoping for high 20s on a win total, and that would be stellar achievement.
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12/23/2020  8:37 AM
I am going with 40 wins. Obi and Quick tie for rookies of the year, Knox and MR have their best years as Pros. Randle and RJ become All Stars. Frank and Dennis share the 6th man award. Rivers, Bullock and Burks average 15 a game.

Hey, if you can't be over optimistic on the first day of Knick regular season, especially after all the **** we have had to go through due to Covid, what good are you??

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12/23/2020  9:03 AM
What I think is not what I want! What I won’t do is believe we’re are something that is yet to happen but I will watch, I will root and cheer! If it good happens then it will be good theatre.
I don’t expect us to be inept.

This is not about me being right or wrong, or lack optimism. I don’t turn on a game to watch a loss. I want to see a good game and a positive outcome.
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12/23/2020  9:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2020  9:26 AM
We were on the upswing when last season ended suddenly, Reasonable expectation I believe is RJ and Mitch take a step forward and become solid to very good. Frank also if he can stay on the floor, If not then perhaps Knox is a pleasant surprise. Rivers, Burks, Noel solid vet/depth additions along with Bullock. Obi and IQ should give us something. And as s much "hate" as they get Randle and Payton are NBA players who may progress in the new regime. Which is the biggest plus I think -- truly better coaching and organization. So some genuine progress should not be a shock.

I see the over/under at 23.5 wins in the shortened season which seems low to me --I would definitely bet the over. And I curse the word "tank."
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12/23/2020  9:35 AM
Nalod wrote:What I think is not what I want! What I won’t do is believe we’re are something that is yet to happen but I will watch, I will root and cheer! If it good happens then it will be good theatre.
I don’t expect us to be inept.

This is not about me being right or wrong, or lack optimism. I don’t turn on a game to watch a loss. I want to see a good game and a positive outcome.

The one skill I can say has improved in me, after watching the knicks lose so much, its my self made GM skills. Im always trying to figure out how can we stop losing and start winning consistently. So I will have my self made GM hat on, watching for individualplayer improvements. For me, the quickest route to a chip with this current team, is through RJ. I believe the knicks will go as far as RJ takes us.

CLyde said RJ looks like hes back in college....Basically everything is looking easy.. and if you don't remember, RJ was the go to player on a duke team that had zion the great on it.. At this rate, if he keeps working, he could be our next home grown super star...and he already proved in college he can play with another star. It would be an ideal dream for me if we can build this team up and be only 1 superstar away from a chip. Thats a stretch goal. But we have age and potential on our side.

Of course Quickley is the new sports car. Just don't forget about that muscle car in RJ...with Knox now stepping up. If those 3 play the way they did in the last few preseason games, we are going to shock a lot of teams...but our weakness is consistency. At the same time...win or lose, we can now see what us OLD KNICK FANS have been complaining about for yrs.. . We finally have a young team, with high potential, actual talent, high IQ, future draft picks, and cap space. Its all up to our current young but seasoned players.. knox, mitch, RJ....lets see who put in that work in the off season. And who was just playing 2k in the bubble.

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blkexec wrote:
Nalod wrote:What I think is not what I want! What I won’t do is believe we’re are something that is yet to happen but I will watch, I will root and cheer! If it good happens then it will be good theatre.
I don’t expect us to be inept.

This is not about me being right or wrong, or lack optimism. I don’t turn on a game to watch a loss. I want to see a good game and a positive outcome.

The one skill I can say has improved in me, after watching the knicks lose so much, its my self made GM skills. Im always trying to figure out how can we stop losing and start winning consistently. So I will have my self made GM hat on, watching for individualplayer improvements. For me, the quickest route to a chip with this current team, is through RJ. I believe the knicks will go as far as RJ takes us.

CLyde said RJ looks like hes back in college....Basically everything is looking easy.. and if you don't remember, RJ was the go to player on a duke team that had zion the great on it.. At this rate, if he keeps working, he could be our next home grown super star...and he already proved in college he can play with another star. It would be an ideal dream for me if we can build this team up and be only 1 superstar away from a chip. Thats a stretch goal. But we have age and potential on our side.

Of course Quickley is the new sports car. Just don't forget about that muscle car in RJ...with Knox now stepping up. If those 3 play the way they did in the last few preseason games, we are going to shock a lot of teams...but our weakness is consistency. At the same time...win or lose, we can now see what us OLD KNICK FANS have been complaining about for yrs.. . We finally have a young team, with high potential, actual talent, high IQ, future draft picks, and cap space. Its all up to our current young but seasoned players.. knox, mitch, RJ....lets see who put in that work in the off season. And who was just playing 2k in the bubble.

Good take. The Game should slow down for RJ after a rookie campaign acclimating. I also suspect he has even better coaching behind him.

while Frank did not get a contract it is surprising how many RFA there will be with those who did not also get deals. I don’t trust what is “Reported” or not so we don’t know to what extent knicks did or did not show interest or if Frank and his camp are cool with an ave away from this team. Not because of the past but to land somewhere where they can further commit to his development. He is not the answer to our issues and with a draft heavy with guards and the progress of IQ its possible he does not fit here.
Not going to worry about the future when the present is interesting enough.
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12/23/2020  10:58 AM
I think we likely win 30 ish games.

I expect RJ to make proper strides as shooter while buying into being a two way player, but his overall shooting will still need work.

I expect Toppin to be a potential ROY contender. But there’s a chance that a lack
Of PG play will hurt him and that’s okay because he’ll play hard every night.

Knox will be a more consistent shooter this year.

Robinson will be more consistent this year and will finally stay out of foul trouble.

Quickley will prove to be a great squad player, but this might the end for Frank or DSJ.

85% I’m wrong but either way I’m excited for our kids and to finally watch Knicks ball after so long.

The Future is Bright!
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12/23/2020  11:03 AM
I think we win 43+ games! We shock the world!
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12/23/2020  11:17 AM
NYKBocker wrote:I think we win 43+ games! We shock the world!

I’m right there with ya unless tibs rides our overrated vets ... if quick gets big minutes hopefully starts as well as Knox I think this team is a 40+ win team... I really get the feeling that quick is gonna win the rookie of the year. I think quick could average 20+ And 7 assists per with a huge + rating. I think it’s gonna be hard to keep him off the floor.


I think obi is gonna take some time to adjust but the talent is there.

Best players and break outs:
Randle
Knox
Robinson
Rj
Quick
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12/23/2020  11:17 AM
I'm not sure about Toppin getting ROY based on the lack of spacing with some of these lineups....he will be up and down, depending on the PG play and rotation.

Randle in a contract year. How long will he play passive vs bully ball spin moves. Hopefully the respect thibs demands will control that.

I'm looking for knox to make improvements. Seems like when knox has a good game, we look like a playoff team. When knox has a bad game, we look bad. So we need some consistency from knox. Hes our offensive sleeper. Can score 30 one day and 3 the next.

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12/23/2020  11:36 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think we win 43+ games! We shock the world!
I'm right there with ya unless tibs rides our overrated vets ... if quick gets big minutes hopefully starts as well as Knox I think this team is a 40+ win team... I really get the feeling that quick is gonna win the rookie of the year. I think quick could average 20+ And 7 assists per with a huge + rating. I think it's gonna be hard to keep him off the floor.


I think obi is gonna take some time to adjust but the talent is there.

Best players and break outs:
Randle
Knox
Robinson
Rj
Quick

My hope is that this is the rotation that thibs run with...

Frank, IQ, RJ, Randle, MRob

Burks, Obi, Knox , Noel, Bullock
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12/23/2020  11:37 AM
blkexec wrote:I'm not sure about Toppin getting ROY based on the lack of spacing with some of these lineups....he will be up and down, depending on the PG play and rotation.

Randle in a contract year. How long will he play passive vs bully ball spin moves. Hopefully the respect thibs demands will control that.

I'm looking for knox to make improvements. Seems like when knox has a good game, we look like a playoff team. When knox has a bad game, we look bad. So we need some consistency from knox. Hes our offensive sleeper. Can score 30 one day and 3 the next.

I think that’s gonna be “the word” for this team to have success This year “CONSISTENCY” especially for the young guns
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NYKBocker wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think we win 43+ games! We shock the world!
I'm right there with ya unless tibs rides our overrated vets ... if quick gets big minutes hopefully starts as well as Knox I think this team is a 40+ win team... I really get the feeling that quick is gonna win the rookie of the year. I think quick could average 20+ And 7 assists per with a huge + rating. I think it's gonna be hard to keep him off the floor.


I think obi is gonna take some time to adjust but the talent is there.

Best players and break outs:
Randle
Knox
Robinson
Rj
Quick

My hope is that this is the rotation that thibs run with...

Frank, IQ, RJ, Randle, MRob

Burks, Obi, Knox , Noel, Bullock

I’d really like to see Frank get some burn he’s way to good of a defensive player not to get good mins
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12/23/2020  12:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2020  12:19 PM
New coach, several new players, long layoff, still young team...easy to predict bumps and growing pains for the Knicks. On the other hand other teams are dealing with the same or similar issues and I sense this team is hungry and will play hard at least for now. Steal some wins early and maybe we gain some momentum before the media et al poisons the well. Would love to see that start tonight!
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12/23/2020  12:28 PM
What better place to insert another ray of homer sunshine than after a glimpse of beauty like that. martin, this is why you are our sponsor.

RJ fulfills the fishmike "taller, better, faster version of Jimmy Butler", with even less (to actually no) headcase issues. Quickley lives up to his billing and pre-season small sample size hype and becomes the de-facto starter and answer at PG for the next 15 years. Shades of Clyde with an even better than H20 outside shot.

Knox blossoms into the new BK gameface, with the long range and mid-range game to go with it. Back to back 50's against Dallas are on the way!!!

Frank muscles his long wingspan in and becomes the defensive specialist and 45% 3 point threat everyone wants him to be, even knicks1248! With Quick, RJ and Knox in starter roles, Frankie wins 6th Man of the Year by a huge margin!

MitchRob goes a third of the season before fouling out even once!!! Leads the league in blocks, deflections, and 3 pt perimeter defense, while re-setting the NBA record shooting 85% from the field! He even breaks Spree's record by hitting 10 threes in a row in one game with no misses! He mimics MJ at Mike Breen and Breen almost spits up a lung laughing and screaming "BANG"... MitchRob gets the energy drink contract instantly after that game...

Obi-One is an early season injury replacement starter as Randle goes down with something minor and Obi entrenches himself with a defensive intensity no one's seen since Oak and Mase. Thibs does one-finger push ups on the sidelines every time Obi draws a charge or blocks a shot that starts a fast break.

Our bench is suddenly loaded with vets killing it to get themselves their next contracts.

We surprise the rest of the division, including the Brooklyn Pawns and win it outright. Our yoots all remain healthy and vibrantly happy, sporting the new throwback 1999 blue and orange and black Finals edition unis.

I will let the rest happily playout in the playoffs.
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12/23/2020  12:40 PM
jrodmc wrote:What better place to insert another ray of homer sunshine than after a glimpse of beauty like that. martin, this is why you are our sponsor.

RJ fulfills the fishmike "taller, better, faster version of Jimmy Butler", with even less (to actually no) headcase issues. Quickley lives up to his billing and pre-season small sample size hype and becomes the de-facto starter and answer at PG for the next 15 years. Shades of Clyde with an even better than H20 outside shot.

Knox blossoms into the new BK gameface, with the long range and mid-range game to go with it. Back to back 50's against Dallas are on the way!!!

Frank muscles his long wingspan in and becomes the defensive specialist and 45% 3 point threat everyone wants him to be, even knicks1248! With Quick, RJ and Knox in starter roles, Frankie wins 6th Man of the Year by a huge margin!

MitchRob goes a third of the season before fouling out even once!!! Leads the league in blocks, deflections, and 3 pt perimeter defense, while re-setting the NBA record shooting 85% from the field! He even breaks Spree's record by hitting 10 threes in a row in one game with no misses! He mimics MJ at Mike Breen and Breen almost spits up a lung laughing and screaming "BANG"... MitchRob gets the energy drink contract instantly after that game...

Obi-One is an early season injury replacement starter as Randle goes down with something minor and Obi entrenches himself with a defensive intensity no one's seen since Oak and Mase. Thibs does one-finger push ups on the sidelines every time Obi draws a charge or blocks a shot that starts a fast break.

Our bench is suddenly loaded with vets killing it to get themselves their next contracts.

We surprise the rest of the division, including the Brooklyn Pawns and win it outright. Our yoots all remain healthy and vibrantly happy, sporting the new throwback 1999 blue and orange and black Finals edition unis.

I will let the rest happily playout in the playoffs.

Book it.

"Homer Sunshine" will be my new screen name....
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12/23/2020  1:45 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I think we win 43+ games! We shock the world!
we are young, long, athletic and well coached. We will be a good defensive team. Can we score enough? If preseason is real and guys like RJ and Knox are ready to take big steps forward on both sides of the ball then its possible. A LOT has to break right for the Knicks which never does, but I think we have the legs to defend every night. Lets see if we can score
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