HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

CleaverGreene wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

First thing I thought of when I saw that video of him shooting 3s in the off-season.

Who the heck is working with him in the offseason? He should be picking up 3-5 garbage baskets off his offensive rebounds each game. He has no hook shot or <5ft foot bank shot game.

Frustrating.

Yeah, you can tell Mitch just doesn't have the structure around him. Dropping out of college, the dropping of agents.

Imagine 1 year (or more ) of Mitch at Kentucky or some other high level school. Would have been a top 10 pick for sure. Cost him MILLIONS of $$$ and may still cost him more with his next contract if he doesn't get serious

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

Lol. Hated that. I guess guys pushing that do not know about a thing called editing. Think the defensive lapses will be quickly addressed by Thibs and will spell bench time. He was asked what he worked on in the off season and Mitch said his ability to space the floor. I was really hoping he would say my mid range wide open jumper. Hoping he has a good year. Does scare me with that Charles Smith type IQ though.

awe1028 wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

The reason foul troubles is still an issue in year 3 is that previous coaches did not allow Rob to play when he got into foul trouble. Leaving him would allow him to adjust on the fly and learn/develop the discipline to play with the fouls and eventually eliminate the problem
Evidence of this: Preason against Cleveland he got 5 quick fouls but Thibs kept him in the game and he ended up playing 32 mins.
As Thibs continue to show confidence in him the foul issues should become less and less of a problem.

There is something to letting a player learn how to play with fouls. This is the step before it though: stop committing the stupid fouls altogether

You don't play Randle more when he is committing a ****-ton of spinovers, you tell him to cut the **** or hit sits. And then when he stops the multiple spinovers, you play him more

martin wrote:

awe1028 wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

The reason foul troubles is still an issue in year 3 is that previous coaches did not allow Rob to play when he got into foul trouble. Leaving him would allow him to adjust on the fly and learn/develop the discipline to play with the fouls and eventually eliminate the problem
Evidence of this: Preason against Cleveland he got 5 quick fouls but Thibs kept him in the game and he ended up playing 32 mins.
As Thibs continue to show confidence in him the foul issues should become less and less of a problem.

There is something to letting a player learn how to play with fouls. This is the step before it though: stop committing the stupid fouls altogether

You don't play Randle more when he is committing a ****-ton of spinovers, you tell him to cut the **** or hit sits. And then when he stops the multiple spinovers, you play him more

Compare with what Thibs has accomplished. In just one preseason under Thibs Mitch already showing signs of improvement in that area I mentioned the first preseason game against Cleveland where he displayed the discipline to stay in the game after picking up the quick five fouls. Then the very next game he plays 27 minutes and did not commit a single foul. Now that's progress. What a difference a competent coach makes.

Oh and you can't compare Mitch to Randle. Randle has been in the NBA for six years and attended Kentucky one of the two or three best college programs in the country He should not be making such silly plays. This is why there is very little patience for Randle.

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:My guess is Mitch is behind in the learning curve. Probably really didn't have a structured offseason where he was learning usable skills for the upcoming season. He now has a professional coaching staff around him and he'd better ****ing put them to use and mature some.

Think the only thing keeping him from the starting line up is the concern of early foul trouble. Kid will be different level if he gets a consistent 15 footer.

I feel like starting lineup is such a low bar placement in terms of where Mitch should be. This is his 3rd season and we shouldn't still be talking about foul troubles.

And enough with the wild ass dribbling and 3point shot making off-season videos against high school YMCA kids. Get that 10-15 footer and jump hook down. Learn when to double, learn when to rotate, get better at organizing the defense in transition.

I had hopes he would develop into a Gobert type of defensive difference maker. However, at this point I think it's more likely he is a better version of Noel

would that be bad? I want every player to be Anthony Davis also but its not realistic. A "better" version of Noel could be pretty good. I see a version of Clint Capella, maybe better maybe not. If he's better he will be the high end rebounder/rim protector that Capella is (already a better rim protector) but also be able to smother guards on the perimeter on switches.

I know that spells role player but when you see what he does on defense he's a critical piece

It comes down to cost. How much do you pay to keep a player as impactful as Capella?