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BRIGGS
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12/16/2020  10:19 PM
C-Robinson
F Toppin
F Knox
G Barrett
G Quickley

Earned by execution and assertive play on both ends

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Knixkik
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12/16/2020  10:25 PM
Yeah it would be worth it. Honestly the only change I would consider is Burks instead of Knox because I think he brings the right vet presence to that lineup.
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12/16/2020  10:28 PM
Knixkik wrote:Yeah it would be worth it. Honestly the only change I would consider is Burks instead of Knox because I think he brings the right vet presence to that lineup.

No we gotta push Knox. I think he might be better with a better PG

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12/16/2020  10:34 PM
I agree with this....I would love to see how they adjust after CLE makes adjustments next game...
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12/16/2020  10:43 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Yeah it would be worth it. Honestly the only change I would consider is Burks instead of Knox because I think he brings the right vet presence to that lineup.

No we gotta push Knox. I think he might be better with a better PG

Knox is a confidence player. So if the Knicks are rolling knox will feed off of that. If they are stagnant than you need a vet like Burks. It’s really whatever the preference is.

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12/17/2020  12:09 AM
I agree with starting that line up... and why not? what do we have to loss ? Who cares about the vets they’ve shown nothing that deserves a starting role
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12/17/2020  12:31 AM
When Randle and the vet crew are in there I flip to other channels. Give me this lineup and sprinkle in some Noel, Burks, Rivers and Frank as needed.
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12/17/2020  9:48 AM
The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games
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12/17/2020  11:12 AM
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

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BRIGGS
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12/17/2020  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2020  11:29 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/17/2020  12:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

What your suggesting is that the FO, Coaching staff panic and change their plan after 3 pre season games? Go back on their FA signings and play the kids that have shown little in 2 or 3 years? Again, after 3 pre season games. One which was mostly against a third string squad. Is that what you think a professional team does?

Btw. What did Quicks shoot last night? Since you want a shooter.

'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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12/17/2020  12:03 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

What your suggesting is that the FO, Coaching staff panic and change their plan after 3 pre season games? Go back on their FA signings and play the kids that have shown little in 2 or 3 years? Again, after 3 pre season games. One which was mostly against a third string squad. Is that what you think a professional team does?

Btw. What did Quicks shoot last night? Since you want a shooter.

What plan? We suck? The kids earned the spots last night

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/17/2020  12:03 PM
Briggs. Question. Bullock, Burks, Rivers have shown for several years to be PRO players that are good players. We just signed two of them. Do you think it is a good move to get them going and give them a shot to get back into playing form after being out for over 9 months? Considering they are the guys you just signed to improve the team?
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
knicks1248
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12/17/2020  12:29 PM
The real question is when has the process of playing super young players ahead of solid veteran worked.

What kind of message would you be sending to potential FA when they come to play against us and see solid veterans on the bench.

Is that how you develop players, let the experience players learn from the rookies?

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12/17/2020  12:49 PM
knicks1248 wrote:The real question is when has the process of playing super young players ahead of solid veteran worked.

What kind of message would you be sending to potential FA when they come to play against us and see solid veterans on the bench.

Is that how you develop players, let the experience players learn from the rookies?

Sorry but we will only attract high caliber free agents when some of our young players turn out to be stars.

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12/17/2020  1:04 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Briggs. Question. Bullock, Burks, Rivers have shown for several years to be PRO players that are good players. We just signed two of them. Do you think it is a good move to get them going and give them a shot to get back into playing form after being out for over 9 months? Considering they are the guys you just signed to improve the team? Or should we scrap that after 2 pre games?
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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12/17/2020  1:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2020  1:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

What your suggesting is that the FO, Coaching staff panic and change their plan after 3 pre season games? Go back on their FA signings and play the kids that have shown little in 2 or 3 years? Again, after 3 pre season games. One which was mostly against a third string squad. Is that what you think a professional team does?

Btw. What did Quicks shoot last night? Since you want a shooter.

What plan? We suck? The kids earned the spots last night

Since you did not answer...Quick shot 17% from three. Earned it? Get shooters in?
Plan is for vets that have proven they are decent NBA players for more than just 1 pre season game.
Payton. Best PG last year, young and proven capable player. Not great.
Rivers. Good player with several years of playoff experience.
RJ. Long term piece that showed potential last year.
Randle. Our best player who averaged close to double double and is still young.
Noel. Solid defensive player who has experience and won't foul out within 20 minutes.

MR. Young athletic freak with lots of potential. But can't shoot or stay on court.
Burks. Good offensive player with experience.
Bullock. Vet that has decent 3pt numbers.
Knox. Third year draft pick that has shown signs but on make or break year.
Frank. Solid defender at a couple of positions. But on make or break year.
Smith. Athletic lottery pick coming off tough year who needs to show something or get dealt.
Quick. Youngster with ability who is long term project.
Topping. Youngster with ability who is a long term project.

'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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12/17/2020  1:33 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

What your suggesting is that the FO, Coaching staff panic and change their plan after 3 pre season games? Go back on their FA signings and play the kids that have shown little in 2 or 3 years? Again, after 3 pre season games. One which was mostly against a third string squad. Is that what you think a professional team does?

Btw. What did Quicks shoot last night? Since you want a shooter.

What plan? We suck? The kids earned the spots last night

Since you did not answer...Quick shot 17% from three. Earned it? Get shooters in?
Plan is for vets that have proven they are decent NBA players for more than just 1 pre season game.
Payton. Best PG last year, young and proven capable player. Not great.
Rivers. Good player with several years of playoff experience.
RJ. Long term piece that showed potential last year.
Randle. Our best player who averaged close to double double and is still young.
Noel. Solid defensive player who has experience and won't foul out within 20 minutes.

MR. Young athletic freak with lots of potential. But can't shoot or stay on court.
Burks. Good offensive player with experience.
Bullock. Vet that has decent 3pt numbers.
Knox. Third year draft pick that has shown signs but on make or break year.
Frank. Solid defender at a couple of positions. But on make or break year.
Smith. Athletic lottery pick coming off tough year who needs to show something or get dealt.
Quick. Youngster with ability who is long term project.
Topping. Youngster with ability who is a long term project.

I hate to tell you this man but quick can shoot with the best of them, just because he on one game missed shots doesn’t mean he’s not a shooter. The kid is a 40+ % 3 point shooter and I’m sure with more court time would show that... the more minutes he gets the better he will get.

Now Payton is 0 for from three this preseason and is known for not being able to hit shots outside of layups. Teams can basically play off of him and therefore crowding the middle and lanes making it hard for everyone else to get easy shots. Hence the extremely slow starts to each half.

What has Payton done in his career to justify starting when he’s never been on a winning team ?

In today’s nba your pg needs to be a threat to score from all over esp the 3 point shot and quick is the only pg that can do that on the roster and it creates open shots for everyone and makes the game easier.

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12/17/2020  1:43 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Briggs. Question. Bullock, Burks, Rivers have shown for several years to be PRO players that are good players. We just signed two of them. Do you think it is a good move to get them going and give them a shot to get back into playing form after being out for over 9 months? Considering they are the guys you just signed to improve the team? Or should we scrap that after 2 pre games?

No. Play the youth— not because they’re young— because it’s the first time in years I saw good inspired basketball. I do not care if q shot 3-11. His play showed up in the +- as plus 19. Reward good play — our guys played well the vets were bad. Reward good play

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/17/2020  1:43 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The last team played with a sense of urgency executed plays and finished off the game. I know they didn’t play against LBJ but I’m all in on going young and I think what Vmart said is true— keeping the same players together. Move Julius to 6 th man commmit to Knox Quickley and Robinson and let it go for ten games

Your not starting quickly because he had a solid preseason game against a team projected to be the worst in the league.

And your not just playing kids in the NBA for the sake of PT because fans want to see them play...That,s something the "Sac Kings" would do

Thank god we don't have a coach like Fiz that just throws sht on the wall to see if sticks every time a player has a good game

I think our best bench squad would be

Quickly
Rivers
Bullock/knox
Obi
Mitch

Nope I’m convinced this is the right avenue

I don’t want to keep any young player down or hidden for the sake of playing a third tier vet.
This gives the team the ability to create chemistry
We made incredible investment — 3 top 10 picks

There comes a time to let it play out and accept some pluses and minus.

Dennis Smith sucks on offense and el Payton can’t shoot. Q is the starter

We have been patient w Knox — we have to push him now— from the starting 3.
No more Noel vs Robinson. Robinson is our guy Noel back up

Toppin top 5 pick— start

Julius can play 6 th man Hopefully from there we can increase his value abs look for nice deal at deadline

What your suggesting is that the FO, Coaching staff panic and change their plan after 3 pre season games? Go back on their FA signings and play the kids that have shown little in 2 or 3 years? Again, after 3 pre season games. One which was mostly against a third string squad. Is that what you think a professional team does?

Btw. What did Quicks shoot last night? Since you want a shooter.


its this. There is no reason to start them. Let them play together as a unit and if they are killing it let them finish
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