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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
12/16/2020 1:48 PM
Another Hall of Famer we shoulda picked instead.
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martin
Posts: 76127 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/16/2020 1:51 PM
Vassell looks like he will be a nice player and maybe his ceiling is a better version of Danny Green?
Obi has a ceiling of a different version of Amare Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Knixkik
Posts: 35423 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
12/16/2020 1:59 PM
Vassell is good. I was a big fan, especially not thinking Toppin would be available. Not saying he will be a better player, but Obi just has a different level of upside.
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awe1028
Posts: 20199 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2009 Member: #2780 |
12/16/2020 2:24 PM
You guys are probably right he Knicks are probably better off long term with Obi in the long run If they can get a point guard like Suggs or Cade or even Lonzo to run the show. But that's a big if the way the knicks keep getting screwed in the lottery and we don't know exactly what NO would want for Lonzo.
I just think Vassell immediately gives the Knicks the identity of an elite defensive team. And a guy like Evan Mobley would be just as impactful as Obi the Knicks are looking at the 2021 draft for infusion of talent. |
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27480 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
12/16/2020 2:30 PM
Devin definitely would have fit well here.
You know I gonna spin wit it
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39826 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/16/2020 3:12 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Devin definitely would have fit well here. Yeah, but this team can't afford to think purely in terms of fit. Wouldn't Vassel, who hasn't really developed as an off the dribble threat yet, suffer from the same PG issues? Obi has, or at least is perceived to have, higher upside. The Spurs have more in place for Vassel to develop at a normal pace. Obi's impact on the other hand should be more immediate. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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awe1028
Posts: 20199 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2009 Member: #2780 |
12/16/2020 4:33 PM
Picking Vassell would be about building an elite defense that would attract free agents to come here. In fact if the knicks could have gone after Christian Wood and he would be the power forward we needed or the could have waited for 2021 and get Evan Mobley. Mobley is actually quite similar to Mitch athletically on the defensive end but is much much further along offensively. Again how great the Knicks would be defensively with
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39826 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/16/2020 4:41 PM
awe1028 wrote:Picking Vassell would be about building an elite defense that would attract free agents to come here. In fact if the knicks could have gone after Christian Wood and he would be the power forward we needed or the could have waited for 2021 and get Evan Mobley. Mobley is actually quite similar to Mitch athletically on the defensive end but is much much further along offensively. Again how great the Knicks would be defensively with Whose to say we get Mobley? I hope not, since I'm on the Suggs/Cunningham brigade. Even if we do get him, it just means we have more assets to trade. Wood's was probably not happening since we're stuck with Great Spinzoo. There will be other 3&D guys out there. I'm not crapping on Vassell, but Obi seemed to be the higher upside pick. Quickley is a good defender. The Knicks could Frank/IQ if defense is what you want. My thing is that talent in this roster is nauseating and the Knicks need to start hitting on these picks. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Philc1
Posts: 28319 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
12/16/2020 4:42 PM
Look, I was SCREAMING for Vassell prior to the draft. But Obi was as good or better as a prospect. At 8 it was either Obi or Vassell and either choice was going to be a home run.
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Philc1
Posts: 28319 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
12/16/2020 4:43 PM
awe1028 wrote:Here he is against Oklahoma City Vassell is Frank with 43% 3pt shooting |
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Philc1
Posts: 28319 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
12/16/2020 4:44 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Devin definitely would have fit well here. They are both going to be great players. |
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TheGame
Posts: 26632 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
12/16/2020 4:50 PM
I would have taken Vassell or the Italian kid before Obi but nothing we can do about it now. Toppin looks like he has potential too if his defense holds up.
Trust the Process
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39826 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/16/2020 4:51 PM
Philc1 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Devin definitely would have fit well here. Agree. That's why I'm not too worried about it. I was more worried that we passed on on Deni, but I've calmed down. Pre-season is fun, but the season is long and rookies have a lot ups and downs. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21420 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
12/16/2020 5:30 PM
TheGame wrote:I would have taken Vassell or the Italian kid before Obi but nothing we can do about it now. Toppin looks like he has potential too if his defense holds up. Which Italian kid? Nico Mannion was picked #48 by GS, why would you have picked him so high? I would have been happy if we reached down for Nesmith, or picked Vassell or Haliburton. Cannot say I was unhappy with the Obi pick, but not my main preference. Vassell looks like a stud, his shot is already money. |
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martin
Posts: 76127 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/16/2020 5:52 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:TheGame wrote:I would have taken Vassell or the Italian kid before Obi but nothing we can do about it now. Toppin looks like he has potential too if his defense holds up. Prob meant Israeli: Deni Avdija Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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TheGame
Posts: 26632 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
12/16/2020 6:22 PM LAST EDITED: 12/16/2020 6:22 PM
martin wrote:ESOMKnicks wrote:TheGame wrote:I would have taken Vassell or the Italian kid before Obi but nothing we can do about it now. Toppin looks like he has potential too if his defense holds up. Yes, meant Israeli. Deni Avdija has looked good too in preseason. I would have taken Vassell first, then Demi, and then Toppin but no point in crying over spilled milk. Hopefully, Toppin turns out to be a good pick. Trust the Process
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