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2/2/2021  11:54 AM
Knixkik wrote:Franz Wagner from Mich should enter that late lottery consideration for us. He's a 2-way player that does a little of everything. Can shoot and really competes defensively. He probably doesn't have top upside but he could be a long-term starting SF, our biggest hole, and offer good production on both ends of the floor.

You see I like him, but I tend to distrust those guys who don’t seem to excel at at one thing.

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TPercy wrote:ESPN mock draft that just came out, sorry if copy paste came out to iffy

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TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

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TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Chad Ford had Suggs, Cade, Mobley, Green and Kuminga in tier 1 in his last podcast. He put Barnes, J Johnson and, I think, Greg Brown in tier 2. I'm gonna give it another lesson today.

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BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Chad Ford had Suggs, Cade, Mobley, Green and Kuminga in tier 1 in his last podcast. He put Barnes, J Johnson and, I think, Greg Brown in tier 2. I'm gonna give it another lesson today.

Cool thanks. Yeah, Knicks NEED a top 5 pick. Again. lol But lottery teams can only jump into top 4 right?

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2/2/2021  4:09 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Chad Ford had Suggs, Cade, Mobley, Green and Kuminga in tier 1 in his last podcast. He put Barnes, J Johnson and, I think, Greg Brown in tier 2. I'm gonna give it another lesson today.

Cool thanks. Yeah, Knicks NEED a top 5 pick. Again. lol But lottery teams can only jump into top 4 right?

I still think Dalls figures it out, but originally I expected their pick in the 20-25 range. Now i'm expecting 15-18 range. Knicks pick i'm betting 7-10 range. With our pick i'm going Z Williams, Kispert, or Moody. With their pick i'm going D Johnson, Butler, or Springer. Address 2 big needs.
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2/2/2021  5:58 PM
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Yeah its probably from a pure talent perspective because I think Green has bigger upside but yeah if Suggs falls to us I'm taking him without looking back.

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martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Chad Ford had Suggs, Cade, Mobley, Green and Kuminga in tier 1 in his last podcast. He put Barnes, J Johnson and, I think, Greg Brown in tier 2. I'm gonna give it another lesson today.

Cool thanks. Yeah, Knicks NEED a top 5 pick. Again. lol But lottery teams can only jump into top 4 right?

I still think Dalls figures it out, but originally I expected their pick in the 20-25 range. Now i'm expecting 15-18 range. Knicks pick i'm betting 7-10 range. With our pick i'm going Z Williams, Kispert, or Moody. With their pick i'm going D Johnson, Butler, or Springer. Address 2 big needs.


You think they beat out Houston and OKC? I'm confident that they are in the same boat as us where they just miss the playoffs. And yeah a guard like Butler and Dosumo is definitely on my radar. I'm surprised they don't rate Springer, they had him as a late 2
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TPercy wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Chad Ford had Suggs, Cade, Mobley, Green and Kuminga in tier 1 in his last podcast. He put Barnes, J Johnson and, I think, Greg Brown in tier 2. I'm gonna give it another lesson today.

Cool thanks. Yeah, Knicks NEED a top 5 pick. Again. lol But lottery teams can only jump into top 4 right?

I still think Dalls figures it out, but originally I expected their pick in the 20-25 range. Now i'm expecting 15-18 range. Knicks pick i'm betting 7-10 range. With our pick i'm going Z Williams, Kispert, or Moody. With their pick i'm going D Johnson, Butler, or Springer. Address 2 big needs.


You think they beat out Houston and OKC? I'm confident that they are in the same boat as us where they just miss the playoffs. And yeah a guard like Butler and Dosumo is definitely on my radar. I'm surprised they don't rate Springer, they had him as a late 2

Yeah they are missing on Springer.
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Scottie pippen jr. One of the most under rated Pgs in college

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Scottie pippen jr. One of the most under rated Pgs in college

He looks like a solid backup. If only he could get help from a growth spurt like his dad.

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This freshman is intriguing. Hitting 44% from three and has plus athleticism, size and wingspan. I think he'll move up draft boards.
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Dallas is a mess a bunch of garbage plus KP and Luka, were gonna get a lotto pick for KP .... mocked at 18 lol more like 7 to 10
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martin wrote:
TPercy wrote:2021 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. MIN Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.3
2. CLE Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.6
3. NYK Jalen Green G-League Ignite 6-6 SG 18.9
4. ORL Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.6
5. DET Jonathan Kuminga G-League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.3
6. WAS Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 19.1
7. CHI Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.8
8. OKC Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.3
9. SAC Sharife Cooper Auburn 6-1 PG 19.6
10. CHA Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.9
11. ATL James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.3
12. HOU Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.6
13. MEM Scottie Barnes Florida St 6-9 SF/PF 19.5
14. NOP Alperen Sengun Besiktas 6-9 C 18.5
15. SAS Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 19.0
16. IND Kai Jones Texas 6-10 PF 20.0
17. HOU (via POR) Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.9
18. NYK (via DAL) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.3
19. GSW David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.9
20. OKC (via MIA) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.4

No way Knicks take Green over Suggs but perhaps ESPN wasn't really taking into consideration team needs?

Top 5 and top 20 picks. I'd take that.

It would be super incredible if the Dallas pick turned out to be the better of the picks FU KP

Keep in mind, Green is signed to CAA...That could have been a factor in them projecting Green to us.
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BigDaddyG wrote:This freshman is intriguing. Hitting 44% from three and has plus athleticism, size and wingspan. I think he'll move up draft boards.

Looks impressive...Haven't caught any full 'Zona games this year only few minutes here and there. Very good athlete, nice touch on his shot and good size. Looks like a better prospect than BJ Boston...
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I will be happy with Jalen Green.
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Have watched an awful lot of games. Taking out a top 5 pick I like the C and PG from Illinois a lot after watching today. The C in years past would be a top 5 pick his name is Kofi and the tall PG is Ayo . Watched him lay a triple double today--actually reminds me of a taller quickley. Both very very good nba prospects high levels.
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