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Josiah31
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11/21/2020  6:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2020  6:30 PM
1 year 5 million according to Woj. We are headed to the finals!
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11/21/2020  6:35 PM
Better than trading for Westbrook or Wall.. 1 year 5 mill - smart move
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11/21/2020  6:42 PM
Josiah31 wrote:1 year 5 million according to Woj. We are headed to the finals!

Not saying much but he was our best point guard. Was hoping they ran with Frank and Smith so they would not be looking over their shoulders. But makes sense. He had a good year. He is also Randle's favorite guard. Feel if they traded Randle, Payton would not have been resigned. Could this be just a move to add another piece as part of a bigger trade?

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11/21/2020  6:43 PM
Payton will probably start. Agree its a more palatable option, to a PG with a killer contract.
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11/21/2020  6:54 PM
I’ll be pretty annoyed if I see him and Randle are freezing guys out again.
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11/21/2020  6:58 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I’ll be pretty annoyed if I see him and Randle are freezing guys out again.

I doubt they're going to get away with freezing out RJ. Thibs, and he isnt a rookie anymore. Im sure Barrett will let them know.
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11/21/2020  6:59 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I’ll be pretty annoyed if I see him and Randle are freezing guys out again.

I'll be pretty annoyed if Randle is here past the trade deadline. They made it known that they wanted his replacement, made several moves to try and draft his replacement and are already marketing him as part of the future. If you thought Randle was a headcase on the court before, prepare for it to get a lot worse.

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11/21/2020  7:07 PM
biggest negative is his penchant to play keep-away-from-RJ

price is good

fingers crossed on Frank and DSJ -- each of whom seem to be on their last stand -- now or never

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11/21/2020  7:11 PM
Chandler wrote:biggest negative is his penchant to play keep-away-from-RJ

price is good

fingers crossed on Frank and DSJ -- each of whom seem to be on their last stand -- now or never

We needed another veteran PG on the roster. But it does make you wonder about where Frank and DSJr stand, and their future with the team. Since Payton started ahead of both of them.
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11/21/2020  7:12 PM
Same old same old. The RJ stuff was ridiculous.

Why not just Rondo $12MM on a one year deal. Would have been fun watching him get Mitch and Obi the ball.
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11/21/2020  8:10 PM
MS wrote:Same old same old. The RJ stuff was ridiculous.

Why not just Rondo $12MM on a one year deal. Would have been fun watching him get Mitch and Obi the ball.

Rondo deal was done before we blinked. Honestly, the Atlanta situation is a heck of a lot more appealing. Don't think he was an option.

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11/21/2020  9:34 PM
Gross.

I want the knicks to do 1 thing. Trade Randle for Rozier. It gets Randle off the team and gets Payton out of the starting lineup. Win win.
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11/21/2020  11:00 PM
People here are assuming Elf is the starter. That would be a disaster for the entire season. That means Frank and DSJ are playing SO BAD that we have no choice but to start Elf. Frank and DSJ have to be the priority here. Elf needs to be plan C.... and he’s a fine Plan C when people get hurt but he can’t be declared a major player from the start.
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11/22/2020  5:29 AM
Does this mean the trade for rozier is dead for Randle? We arent sold with DSJ or Frank?

I don't like the fit of Payton with RJ and going to the season with the same 3 point gusrds.
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11/22/2020  7:04 AM
Dumb move, unless Frank or DSJr are definitely getting moved. Having 3 PGs who cannot hit the side of a barn on the same team did not work last year, and will not work this year either.
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11/22/2020  7:46 AM
I do hope there is some other move lined up or in motion to upgrade the PG position. Payton is a stop gap PG for a bottom tier team. He had flashes, but nothing sustained and his warts as big as anything decent he brought to the game.

Any chance we could trade for Mudiay? That was a mistake letting him go.

In fact, any chance of trading for Langston Galloway?

Ron Baker free still?

In fact - why didn’t we sign Trey Burke? I think he would have been an easy upgrade.
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11/22/2020  10:31 AM
At best, this gives Thibs time to see what he has in all his possible point guards while not risking having none work out.

At worst, Payton starts all year and we get a top pick.

In a year where we are going deeper into the rebuilding with way more assets, way more flexibility and way more chances to deliver franchise-changing talent (RJ, Obi and Mitch, for starters, along with two 1st round picks in next year’s loaded draft), our moves so far are really a breath of fresh air.

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11/22/2020  10:34 AM

DSK or Frank are goners. i can only hope Randle is too -- thus breaking up team "keep-away from RJ"

they don't need another PG but DSJ (from the area) and Randle for one of CHarlotte's PGs -- probably rozier??? I can give long odds that Rozier is having a nutty right now with LaMelo on the roster.

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11/22/2020  10:53 AM
Chandler wrote:

DSK or Frank are goners. i can only hope Randle is too -- thus breaking up team "keep-away from RJ"

they don't need another PG but DSJ (from the area) and Randle for one of CHarlotte's PGs -- probably rozier??? I can give long odds that Rozier is having a nutty right now with LaMelo on the roster.

Where does all that leave devonte Graham tho?

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11/22/2020  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2020  11:31 AM
Can't be mad at the contract but its frustrating that it was Payton that received it. We watched this show last year and it was ugly. The spacing when Payton, Rj and Randle are on the floor is nonexistent. Payton also tends to pound the air out of the rock. Im sure someone like Quin Cook would have taken a similar deal. a guy who could provide a little more spacing.
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