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can someone clarify how the Payton/Ellington/Portis options work and when they kick in? (11/19 at 3pm)
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fishmike
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11/18/2020  10:54 AM
Portis has a team option for $15mm
Ellington/Elf are only guaranteed $1mm of their $8mm

That looks like $30mm in player salary a team could shed if they trade for those 3 Knicks then decline the options correct?

I would think that represents a lot of flexibility for the Knicks to make moves today assuming I have that right

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11/18/2020  10:55 AM
Correct.
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11/18/2020  11:00 AM
I believe they have by Friday to make a decision on those contracts as well as Taj and Bullock.... I believe.

Randle will be in the same position this Summer.

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11/18/2020  11:40 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I believe they have by Friday to make a decision on those contracts as well as Taj and Bullock.... I believe.

Randle will be in the same position this Summer.

good call... Taj is worth almost $10mm but only $1mm is locked in and $4mm of Randle's $18mm is locked in for 21/22 so he's essentially an expiring contract or pretty close. I dont think he makes it through draft day
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11/18/2020  11:58 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I believe they have by Friday to make a decision on those contracts as well as Taj and Bullock.... I believe.

Randle will be in the same position this Summer.

Yeah, it's the same situation Gordan Hayward is in. That's why the Celts are trying to extend the deadline.

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11/18/2020  1:11 PM
The Knicks also have decisions to make on Frank and DSJ this Summer. Aren’t they both RFAs?
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11/18/2020  1:13 PM
Its a useful trade chip to a team that needs to shed salary to make a deal. Let’s see if Leons gets incentivized to make a deal or does he pass?
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11/19/2020  10:34 AM
martin wrote:
wow... by day's end I think we have a better view of what the team will look like, or at least how the FO hopes they look. Bullock is good. He's a keeper. Elf and Ellington are gonners and Taj didnt play well last year. We'll see if THibs really loves him or now
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11/19/2020  10:37 AM
I have heard Boston is kinda begging teams to take Kemba and/or Gordon Haywood. I would take either. I would love Kemba. Their coaching staff is also development oriented and maybe would be into DSJ and cap relief.
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SupremeCommander wrote:I have heard Boston is kinda begging teams to take Kemba and/or Gordon Haywood. I would take either. I would love Kemba. Their coaching staff is also development oriented and maybe would be into DSJ and cap relief.

two issues:

1) i worry about Kemba's knees -- which is what they're talking about here in Boston
2) no trades with celtics -- that is ainge's strength more than drafting. if they want to give us a guy and assets to take someone off the books that might be ok

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11/19/2020  12:31 PM
martin wrote:

i hated his signing at the time, but now it looks like a pretty good deal

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11/19/2020  12:53 PM
Chandler wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I have heard Boston is kinda begging teams to take Kemba and/or Gordon Haywood. I would take either. I would love Kemba. Their coaching staff is also development oriented and maybe would be into DSJ and cap relief.

two issues:

1) i worry about Kemba's knees -- which is what they're talking about here in Boston
2) no trades with celtics -- that is ainge's strength more than drafting. if they want to give us a guy and assets to take someone off the books that might be ok

i can't say i disagree with you... i just mean a low ball offer. if they want to give us something or don't want much back i would be open to Kemba, he has shined often at msg

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11/19/2020  1:08 PM
Stay away from Kemba. He’s older, injured and maxed. Hayward is fine on a one year deal happy to have him.

Bullock is going to be big for Thibs, he’s definitely going to start and should make a very nice trade piece for someone mid season.
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WOW Wooten gone?
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I gotta guess something is up
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