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knicks1248
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10/30/2020  8:20 AM
Awesome Interview..very entertaining

All of His points are DEAD ON the money....

CP does a good job with his questions.

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10/30/2020  11:26 AM
Not often i watch those things but this guy does a good job and Harp is a good interview.
The aggregate of all I have read about the 94 season, what I saw myself, Riley’s words, etc was they just did not have enough.
Blaming Charles smith, or blame oak, or blame Ewing etc..........basically they did not have enough to get it done. Blame falls on a lot of shoulders and Harp does a good job DIPLOMATICALLY! The was critical of Ewing but not in a bad way. WE all saw it and its all on tape. Even Riley made mistakes.
No sense rehashing and blaming Melo.
for all its worth the Rockets basically turned up the tempo and that’s ultimately what did knicks in.
Thanx for posting!
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10/30/2020  1:30 PM
Nalod wrote:Not often i watch those things but this guy does a good job and Harp is a good interview.
The aggregate of all I have read about the 94 season, what I saw myself, Riley’s words, etc was they just did not have enough.
Blaming Charles smith, or blame oak, or blame Ewing etc..........basically they did not have enough to get it done. Blame falls on a lot of shoulders and Harp does a good job DIPLOMATICALLY! The was critical of Ewing but not in a bad way. WE all saw it and its all on tape. Even Riley made mistakes.
No sense rehashing and blaming Melo.
for all its worth the Rockets basically turned up the tempo and that’s ultimately what did knicks in.
Thanx for posting!

The real reason the Knicks didn’t win a championship during the 90’s was the 1992 offseason. We let X-Man go who scared the hell out of Pippen. Also traded Mark Jackson in his prime for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers. Another bad move. Another bad move ended up being the Rolando Blackmon trade getting rid of a future draft pick for a guy who was done


That 1992 team that took the Jordan Bulls to the edge should have been left alone

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10/30/2020  1:39 PM
Totally Agree..

The part when he said when he first got here and (coming from a losing environment in dallas) he struggled to keep up with intensity of the Knicks practices, and it showed in the live games.

Its one of the reason I had been pointing out for years about TANKING and developing your youth in a losing environment. Those hbits are hard to break, especially when its 80% of your roster...

He had to learn from the guys around him, the leadership, the work ethic, the culture.

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10/30/2020  2:04 PM
Very much enjoy Knicksfan TV, glad they're getting some great guests and former Knicks for interviews- been great to see them grow
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10/30/2020  2:04 PM
I always used to think Harper looked like he wanted to throttle Starks a lot of the time, ha
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10/30/2020  2:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Totally Agree..

The part when he said when he first got here and (coming from a losing environment in dallas) he struggled to keep up with intensity of the Knicks practices, and it showed in the live games.

Its one of the reason I had been pointing out for years about TANKING and developing your youth in a losing environment. Those hbits are hard to break, especially when its 80% of your roster...

He had to learn from the guys around him, the leadership, the work ethic, the culture.

So what comes first? The chicken or the egg? You say you’ve been pointing it out for years like your some hindsight savant of a higher level. LIke somehow 1248 understands above A man who was an NCAA star, had a long NBA career, disrupted by a bad injury, Was part of two chips as a player, mentored under the great red Holzman, went 6 for 6 in his fist trips to the NBA finals, Had Two bonafide stars that never won a chip without him, Then won another 5 rings in LA.......PHil Jax and for all that he knows about winning still phuched it up retrospectfully.
And to think that you pointed it out makes you above reproach?
You are not live making real time decisions and accountable for them. Your just able to say in hindsight what would be better.

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10/30/2020  3:02 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Not often i watch those things but this guy does a good job and Harp is a good interview.
The aggregate of all I have read about the 94 season, what I saw myself, Riley’s words, etc was they just did not have enough.
Blaming Charles smith, or blame oak, or blame Ewing etc..........basically they did not have enough to get it done. Blame falls on a lot of shoulders and Harp does a good job DIPLOMATICALLY! The was critical of Ewing but not in a bad way. WE all saw it and its all on tape. Even Riley made mistakes.
No sense rehashing and blaming Melo.
for all its worth the Rockets basically turned up the tempo and that’s ultimately what did knicks in.
Thanx for posting!

The real reason the Knicks didn’t win a championship during the 90’s was the 1992 offseason. We let X-Man go who scared the hell out of Pippen. Also traded Mark Jackson in his prime for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers. Another bad move. Another bad move ended up being the Rolando Blackmon trade getting rid of a future draft pick for a guy who was done


That 1992 team that took the Jordan Bulls to the edge should have been left alone

You might be right. But then the rise of Starks and Mase might have changed. Not all things would be equal.
As if you knew then Rivers knee would blow out? Or Smith would get mauled and not get a three throw?
I’d even say Mark Jax had a great career but why did his Indy teams not win a chip either?

X man was here one season. Did he price himself out off the team and if we gave him what he wanted who could we not afford to pay? Did Riley Really want him.
Mase just finishes his second season off the bench. Obviously we move Xman off and Mase in. Team got better.
We can look at stats and Mark Jax 8 assists were great but what was him at age 26 that thought he’d have hit his ceiling? I’m not defending the trade that sent him to the Clippers but one has to look at that moment of time and factor it all in. Not the ease of hindsight!
A lot of things have to go right and 26 years later we don’t remember that Riley got out coached by Rudy T but since Riles is “The Godfather” we suppose t forget it?
It was part of what happened.
Maybe we keep Jax and Xman other things don’t happen and KNicks never make finals!

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10/30/2020  3:04 PM
smackeddog wrote:I always used to think Harper looked like he wanted to throttle Starks a lot of the time, ha

Starkes was a bone head many times. Its what helped him but also held him back all the same.
We got a lot out of him and that his value made the Spree deal possible.

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11/13/2020  12:16 PM
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Not often i watch those things but this guy does a good job and Harp is a good interview.
The aggregate of all I have read about the 94 season, what I saw myself, Riley’s words, etc was they just did not have enough.
Blaming Charles smith, or blame oak, or blame Ewing etc..........basically they did not have enough to get it done. Blame falls on a lot of shoulders and Harp does a good job DIPLOMATICALLY! The was critical of Ewing but not in a bad way. WE all saw it and its all on tape. Even Riley made mistakes.
No sense rehashing and blaming Melo.
for all its worth the Rockets basically turned up the tempo and that’s ultimately what did knicks in.
Thanx for posting!

The real reason the Knicks didn’t win a championship during the 90’s was the 1992 offseason. We let X-Man go who scared the hell out of Pippen. Also traded Mark Jackson in his prime for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers. Another bad move. Another bad move ended up being the Rolando Blackmon trade getting rid of a future draft pick for a guy who was done


That 1992 team that took the Jordan Bulls to the edge should have been left alone

You might be right. But then the rise of Starks and Mase might have changed. Not all things would be equal.
As if you knew then Rivers knee would blow out? Or Smith would get mauled and not get a three throw?
I’d even say Mark Jax had a great career but why did his Indy teams not win a chip either?

X man was here one season. Did he price himself out off the team and if we gave him what he wanted who could we not afford to pay? Did Riley Really want him.
Mase just finishes his second season off the bench. Obviously we move Xman off and Mase in. Team got better.
We can look at stats and Mark Jax 8 assists were great but what was him at age 26 that thought he’d have hit his ceiling? I’m not defending the trade that sent him to the Clippers but one has to look at that moment of time and factor it all in. Not the ease of hindsight!
A lot of things have to go right and 26 years later we don’t remember that Riley got out coached by Rudy T but since Riles is “The Godfather” we suppose t forget it?
It was part of what happened.
Maybe we keep Jax and Xman other things don’t happen and KNicks never make finals!

Look if the goal was to beat the bulls that 1992 team played with an edge and came closer to beating Jordan than any other Knicks team. Mase and Starks would have developed even if they were just coming off the bench a little bit longer.


The pacers were never good enough to win a title. That wasn’t Jackson’s fault

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11/13/2020  12:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/13/2020  12:18 PM
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I always used to think Harper looked like he wanted to throttle Starks a lot of the time, ha

Starkes was a bone head many times. Its what helped him but also held him back all the same.
We got a lot out of him and that his value made the Spree deal possible.

Starks was an extreme overachiever. That’s part of why the fans loved him and still do to this day. He was a 6’2 combo guard playing defense on Jordan and Reggie Miller and the only reason he was even able to do so was he played with a ton of heart

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11/15/2020  12:01 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I always used to think Harper looked like he wanted to throttle Starks a lot of the time, ha

Starkes was a bone head many times. Its what helped him but also held him back all the same.
We got a lot out of him and that his value made the Spree deal possible.

Starks was an extreme overachiever. That’s part of why the fans loved him and still do to this day. He was a 6’2 combo guard playing defense on Jordan and Reggie Miller and the only reason he was even able to do so was he played with a ton of heart

He did have heart, but the culture, the coach and his staff, the roster, the environment, all tied into to how things were around the knuckles.

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11/15/2020  4:38 PM
Shoulda played Ro Blackmon in game 7.
Bring back dee-fense
KNICKSFAN TV Really cool Harper Interview

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