There is a chance this FO will go the Lakers route to get a championship.i think 3 years ago the Lakers are an up and coming young team. Now the only prominent youth in the roster is Kuzma. I think as early as now we should condition ourselves that our young core are just trade pieces, a means to an end and is foolish to get attached to Frank or Mitch or even RJ coz when the right player becomes available via trade the knicks have no choice but to part with their youth. Hopefully when the knicks start to contend the roster that will be assembled can have a sustainable run rather than be a one hit wonder.

Jimbo5 wrote:I think the FO is contemplating between staying the course or making a move now, with all the 4 trade options in the article, realistically the knicks can only trade for one of them. I don't want anyone of them as well but i read an article that Oladipo ranks higher than CP3 in terms of trade priorities.

There is a chance this FO will go the Lakers route to get a championship.i think 3 years ago the Lakers are an up and coming young team. Now the only prominent youth in the roster is Kuzma. I think as early as now we should condition ourselves that our young core are just trade pieces, a means to an end and is foolish to get attached to Frank or Mitch or even RJ coz when the right player becomes available via trade the knicks have no choice but to part with their youth. Hopefully when the knicks start to contend the roster that will be assembled can have a sustainable run rather than be a one hit wonder.

I would not mind taking the Lakers' route to a championship, although winning via a home grown dynasty would be a lot more gratifying. But Oladipo is no LeBron.

Agree with jskinny, giving up assets for Oladipo would be a starphuk at its worst, even though I like Oladipo as a player.

The only star players I would consider trading meaningful assets for would be: AD, Kawhi, Donovan, Giannis and Luka. Maybe KAT, but only if Thibs crashes and burns here first. Maybe D'Aaron Fox. Or maybe we try to poach John Collins away from Atlanta for a future first rounder plus some kind of Knox, heard Atlanta may not sign Collins to an extension. But this is all provided we do not give up so much as to not be able to surround the new acquisitions with a good supporting cast, so doubtful that any of these targets would be realistic.

Anyone else is either too old to fit our development timeline, or not a game-changer.

Paul George- You know full well he’d be the number 1 guy when he has no business being a number 1 guy.

Chris Paul- His value is as high as it’s going to get. You don’t buy high on a 35 year old PG who is still owed a lot and is one injury away from being done.

I really hope these are rumors.

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Jimbo5 wrote:Another day, another trade rumor, the downside of an extended layoff. The Chris Paul rumors from 2 weeks ago have died down but there are still some media keeping the coals burning. Now that Oladipo expressed his desire to leave Indiana after their bubble end, the media is now starting the Oladipio rumors. Part of it i see a flashback of the Melo trade all over again, if they can just wait 1 more year for Oladipo they can get him without giving up something or at most not much(sign and trade). The media is picturing a scenario if the knicks want Oladipio in a knick uniform next year they will have to give up a king's ransom for him! Similar to when the knicks gave up ALOT, including the kitchen sink for Melo.

To make things worse, unlike Melo, Oladipo is coming of a serious injury and has shown that he is still not the same Oladipo of 2 years ago! Can he return to his Allstar, 2-way type of player he shown 2 years ago? Yes he can still. But is that a certainty? Absolutely not. Im just worried with the Knicks luck, the answer to the question about returning to his old Allstar self is he wont.

A line up of FVV, Oladipo, RJ with Mitch is nice but please just wait for next year, don't trade for Oladipo this offseason please

You can make the case Ola was declining before the injury. 2018 may have been a fluke shooting year. I'm more against this move than I am on a possible CP3 trade.

i'm in this camp. I don't like the idea of CP3 in general but i can see it happening because he better aligns with some of Thibs' traits, e.g., defense, all about winning basketball, attention to detail, ultra competitive.

Free advice to Rose/Thibs, don't go after any of these guys -- too old, risky. Keep Taj on the team the way Miami keeps Haslem. Get FAs and draft picks with brains and heart

Uptown wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:I think the FO is contemplating between staying the course or making a move now, with all the 4 trade options in the article, realistically the knicks can only trade for one of them. I don't want anyone of them as well but i read an article that Oladipo ranks higher than CP3 in terms of trade priorities.

There is a chance this FO will go the Lakers route to get a championship.i think 3 years ago the Lakers are an up and coming young team. Now the only prominent youth in the roster is Kuzma. I think as early as now we should condition ourselves that our young core are just trade pieces, a means to an end and is foolish to get attached to Frank or Mitch or even RJ coz when the right player becomes available via trade the knicks have no choice but to part with their youth. Hopefully when the knicks start to contend the roster that will be assembled can have a sustainable run rather than be a one hit wonder.

We do not have any young players on the level of Brandon Ingram or Lonzo Ball for that matter so we don't have a chance to bring in a player at the level of AD. With that said, I agree, I wont no parts on Oladipo. He suffered a pretty significant injury and we cannot commit that kind of money to a player who may be on the decline.

We have/had players like those guys, but instead of boosting their value we are very good at doing just the opposite. We trade, draft, and acquire players that don't fit, then waist time trying to turn them into something they are not, at the same time making them look like crackheads, saw what the triangle did for jr and shumpert, (a top 10 pick, and the 6th man of the previous yr) in exchange for lance thomas and a 2nd round pick

Think about it, we Tried to fit melo and Marbury in a MDA system, or trying to get anybody to play in the triangle, trying to turn Randle into Labron, or THJ and Afflalo into Kobe, trying to turn frank into a an aggressive scorer, trying to turn Knox into Tatum.

When you acquire, trade for, or draft players that fit, Like Novak, Lin, JR, Felton Prigioni, danilo( in a MDA system) as an example, they're value rises.

If the player doesn't fit the style your want to play right now, you have to move on for them, the window is 3 years MAX

Jimbo5 wrote:Another day, another trade rumor, the downside of an extended layoff. The Chris Paul rumors from 2 weeks ago have died down but there are still some media keeping the coals burning. Now that Oladipo expressed his desire to leave Indiana after their bubble end, the media is now starting the Oladipio rumors. Part of it i see a flashback of the Melo trade all over again, if they can just wait 1 more year for Oladipo they can get him without giving up something or at most not much(sign and trade). The media is picturing a scenario if the knicks want Oladipio in a knick uniform next year they will have to give up a king's ransom for him! Similar to when the knicks gave up ALOT, including the kitchen sink for Melo.

In the interest of revisionist history, explain "ALOT", other than the draft picks, which I guess represent the "kitchen sink"?
And comparing trading for a broken down, possibly end of life Oladipo to Prime Melo really is a stretch.
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