Philly also has Al Horford who is just a mess of a contract and doesn't seem to mesh well with Embiid either.

No idea on the long term health issues for Embiid or if Philly thinks a guy like Wiseman would be a younger, healthier reset of a player for the Sixers. Build around Simmons and whomever is the #2 pick? Put Al at the 5 and you have interchangeable wings all over the place.

GS has a first rounder next year from TWolves and a bunch of #2 picks. They get a horse in the middle who may not fit their spacing? But he is a load and maybe the other guys space for him.

Thoughts?

martin wrote:Don't know if Philly has maxed out with Embiid and if he and Ben Simmons will ever pair better. Philly did do well last year with Butler and Redick.

Philly also has Al Horford who is just a mess of a contract and doesn't seem to mesh well with Embiid either.

No idea on the long term health issues for Embiid or if Philly thinks a guy like Wiseman would be a younger, healthier reset of a player for the Sixers. Build around Simmons and whomever is the #2 pick? Put Al at the 5 and you have interchangeable wings all over the place.

GS has a first rounder next year from TWolves and a bunch of #2 picks. They get a horse in the middle who may not fit their spacing? But he is a load and maybe the other guys space for him.

Thoughts?

I think Al Horford might be the better, without knowing cap details. Smarter passer, has three point range and gives Dray time to rest in-between wrestling matches with big centers.

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:Don't know if Philly has maxed out with Embiid and if he and Ben Simmons will ever pair better. Philly did do well last year with Butler and Redick.

Philly also has Al Horford who is just a mess of a contract and doesn't seem to mesh well with Embiid either.

No idea on the long term health issues for Embiid or if Philly thinks a guy like Wiseman would be a younger, healthier reset of a player for the Sixers. Build around Simmons and whomever is the #2 pick? Put Al at the 5 and you have interchangeable wings all over the place.

GS has a first rounder next year from TWolves and a bunch of #2 picks. They get a horse in the middle who may not fit their spacing? But he is a load and maybe the other guys space for him.

Thoughts?

I think Al Horford might be the better, without knowing cap details. Smarter passer, has three point range and gives Dray time to rest in-between wrestling matches with big centers.

I was thinking the same after I posted.

So what would GS give up? Same thing? Straight Wiggins + #2 pick?

I don't see them giving up #2 unless they threw in Tobias. But there's no way to make the salaried match. Philly would make the trade straight up without the pick, but I think GSW still needs Wiggins.

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:Don't know if Philly has maxed out with Embiid and if he and Ben Simmons will ever pair better. Philly did do well last year with Butler and Redick.

Philly also has Al Horford who is just a mess of a contract and doesn't seem to mesh well with Embiid either.

No idea on the long term health issues for Embiid or if Philly thinks a guy like Wiseman would be a younger, healthier reset of a player for the Sixers. Build around Simmons and whomever is the #2 pick? Put Al at the 5 and you have interchangeable wings all over the place.

GS has a first rounder next year from TWolves and a bunch of #2 picks. They get a horse in the middle who may not fit their spacing? But he is a load and maybe the other guys space for him.

Thoughts?

I think Al Horford might be the better, without knowing cap details. Smarter passer, has three point range and gives Dray time to rest in-between wrestling matches with big centers.

I was thinking the same after I posted.

So what would GS give up? Same thing? Straight Wiggins + #2 pick?

I don't see them giving up #2 unless they threw in Tobias. But there's no way to make the salaried match. Philly would make the trade straight up without the pick, but I think GSW still needs Wiggins.

IDK, feels like Philly is helping out GS more than they are themselves if it's just Wiggins for Al

Maybe. But I think GSW definitely needs a third scorer more than a center, even one as cerebral as Horford. The fact that Green can't give them a consistent 15 ppg necessitates the need for a player like Wiggins. Embiid might be the only way the #2 is in play. But that would cause a major change in offense that has had historic success. Also, I don't Wiggins and the #2 would be enough to satisfy Philly, unless they've fallen in love with Wiseman.

TripleThreat wrote:

Nalod wrote:I’m thinking Minny could trade its pick this year? Edwards or Wiseman make sense for them? What do they need to move up to respectable street? Does Lamelo, Ball or Edwards help them the next two years? Russell and KAT are young still but they might ascent with a solid veteran.

From what I'm hearing, OKC and Philly are talking Embiid.

Also GSW is talking to the Miami Heat

Teams talk to everyone this time of the year but OKC is probably the best pathway to trade Embiid. In terms of optics, the trade has to survive the local Philly sports media for the Colangelos to survive.

Charlotte wants Paul George but literally have nothing to trade. They are also looking at Al Horford but I don't see how any of that would actually work.

Besides a straight salary dump, what would GS talk to Miami about? Miami has Bam, Bulter, Olynyk (player option) and Iggy under contract for next year.