wargames wrote:Is there a reason that he waited so long to get the surgery?

To shake his fist at Phil Jackson,

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

Agree about the reaction if we maxed out KP. Disagree about whiffing on cap space. Perry made a point of signing players to short term deals. Randle was the longest, at 3 years. Not counting barrett.

Rose is going to have a lot of cap room to maneuver, thanks to Perry.

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

I think trading KP wasn’t the problem but the return was. But ultimately we can’t judge until we see what happens with the 2 draft picks we got.

Still have that cap room. Jury still out on DSJr. Teams were concerned precisely about this very situation. Including the Mavs, but we still got cap room, 1st round picks, etc..

Seeing how we dodged a bullet, got a decent haul for a player who cant stay healthy. Who was about to be maxed out. Dont see anything to complain about.

And yet the Knicks are still raked through the coals for this as well as not signing KD and Kyrie who are doing a hell of a job in Netsville. Three max players with varying concerns (injuries, age, behavior, mental health) at top dollar and the only peep you hear from media is that the Knicks blew it.

fwk00 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

I think trading KP wasn’t the problem but the return was. But ultimately we can’t judge until we see what happens with the 2 draft picks we got.

Still have that cap room. Jury still out on DSJr. Teams were concerned precisely about this very situation. Including the Mavs, but we still got cap room, 1st round picks, etc..

Seeing how we dodged a bullet, got a decent haul for a player who cant stay healthy. Who was about to be maxed out. Dont see anything to complain about.

And yet the Knicks are still raked through the coals for this as well as not signing KD and Kyrie who are doing a hell of a job in Netsville. Three max players with varying concerns (injuries, age, behavior, mental health) at top dollar and the only peep you hear from media is that the Knicks blew it.

The Knicks (and Dolan and the FO) have been MSM punching bags forever. Someday a sportwriter will come along and point out, in honest retrospect, that the Knicks (since Phil Jackson) HAVE been turning it around and usually smartly.

Unllike the MSM...

Phil was right about (our most disingenuous -cough- superstar) Melo.

Phil was right about K[ra]P.

Knicks were right to trade Melo.

Knicks were right to trade KP

Knicks were right not to sign Durant and whozit

Knicks were smart to rid themselves of Fizdale after making the mistake of hiring him in the first place)

It could have been much worse AND we are far better off.

You forgot "Phil shouldnt have signed Melo to a near max deal, an NTC, and a trade kicker."

Phil might have been right about trading KP, but he wanted another injury prone big, who wasnt as skilled.

fwk00 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

I think trading KP wasn’t the problem but the return was. But ultimately we can’t judge until we see what happens with the 2 draft picks we got.

Still have that cap room. Jury still out on DSJr. Teams were concerned precisely about this very situation. Including the Mavs, but we still got cap room, 1st round picks, etc..

Seeing how we dodged a bullet, got a decent haul for a player who cant stay healthy. Who was about to be maxed out. Dont see anything to complain about.

And yet the Knicks are still raked through the coals for this as well as not signing KD and Kyrie who are doing a hell of a job in Netsville. Three max players with varying concerns (injuries, age, behavior, mental health) at top dollar and the only peep you hear from media is that the Knicks blew it.

The Knicks (and Dolan and the FO) have been MSM punching bags forever. Someday a sportwriter will come along and point out, in honest retrospect, that the Knicks (since Phil Jackson) HAVE been turning it around and usually smartly.

Unllike the MSM...

Phil was right about (our most disingenuous -cough- superstar) Melo.

Phil was right about K[ra]P.

Knicks were right to trade Melo.

Knicks were right to trade KP

Knicks were right not to sign Durant and whozit

Knicks were smart to rid themselves of Fizdale after making the mistake of hiring him in the first place)

It could have been much worse AND we are far better off.

Sorry, that doesn't fit "the narrative."

Knixkik wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

I think trading KP wasn’t the problem but the return was. But ultimately we can’t judge until we see what happens with the 2 draft picks we got.

The Celtics offered us Jaylon Brown and picks in 2017

fwk00 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:I can just imagine how badly our FO would have been roasted right now if his 5-year max contract was on OUR books. Probably even worse than for "only" getting DSJr, picks and whiffed cap space for him.

I think trading KP wasn’t the problem but the return was. But ultimately we can’t judge until we see what happens with the 2 draft picks we got.

Still have that cap room. Jury still out on DSJr. Teams were concerned precisely about this very situation. Including the Mavs, but we still got cap room, 1st round picks, etc..

Seeing how we dodged a bullet, got a decent haul for a player who cant stay healthy. Who was about to be maxed out. Dont see anything to complain about.

And yet the Knicks are still raked through the coals for this as well as not signing KD and Kyrie who are doing a hell of a job in Netsville. Three max players with varying concerns (injuries, age, behavior, mental health) at top dollar and the only peep you hear from media is that the Knicks blew it.

The Knicks (and Dolan and the FO) have been MSM punching bags forever. Someday a sportwriter will come along and point out, in honest retrospect, that the Knicks (since Phil Jackson) HAVE been turning it around and usually smartly.

Unllike the MSM...

Phil was right about (our most disingenuous -cough- superstar) Melo.

Phil was right about K[ra]P.

Knicks were right to trade Melo.

Knicks were right to trade KP

Knicks were right not to sign Durant and whozit

Knicks were smart to rid themselves of Fizdale after making the mistake of hiring him in the first place)

It could have been much worse AND we are far better off.

agree on all points. Don’t be shocked if one of the picks we got for Porzingis is a lottery pick

GustavBahler wrote:From ESPN..

Dallas Mavericks star big man Kristaps Porzingis will be sidelined to begin the season as he continues to rehabilitate from surgery to repair the meniscus in his right knee, according to Mavs president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson.

The Mavs have targeted Jan. 1 as the date that Porzingis would be cleared to begin on-court activity, Nelson told ESPN.

"We're going to make sure that that's 100 percent before we put him out there, so that's going to be into the season before we are able to have him join us," Nelson said Monday on 105.3 FM The Fan in Dallas.

Philc1 wrote:35 Over/under on games Porzingis plays this year

This compressed season? I’ll take the under.