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With The 8th Overall, The NY Knicks Should Select Villanova Wildcat Saddiq Bey
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TripleThreat
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8/21/2020  3:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/21/2020  3:20 PM

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/saddiq-bey-1.html

Strengths: Scrappy, confident, high energy forward who broke out this season into one of the most productive players in the Big East … Outstanding three-point shooter who finished at 45% for the season on a high volume of shots (2.5 made threes per game) … Elite catch and shoot perimeter player … High motor, versatile player with the size to play the SF position at the next level (6’8, 216 pounds) and with a near 7-foot wingspan … An overachiever. Bey is a two-way player who stood out on both sides of the ball for #10 Villanova Wildcats this season … Knock down shooter from both mid-range and beyond the arc … Held his own in limited post opportunities this season … Strong and determined defender who can successfully defend 2s, 3s, and (college) 4s … Physical on both offense and defense … Does a good job of playing deliberate and when he sees an open look, there’s no hesitation, the shot is going up … Quick release allows him to get up uncontested threes before help defenders can arrive … Strength, size, and length allow him to take advantage of mismatches against smaller guards … Showcases above average handles for someone with his size … Gives relentless effort whenever he is in the game… While it is not his specialty, he is able to create for others around him … Respectable free throw shooter who will only improve … Takes care of the ball and passes well for a forward … 1.61 AST/TO was one of the best in the nation among forwards …

Weaknesses: Limited athletically. While Bey gets the most out of his abilities, some feel that he has peaked to some degree developmentally … Lacks great fluidity and is not the greatest run/jump athlete … Has he peaked to some degree? Can create shots for others, but struggles at times to create his own shot … While his shot was very consistent and effective, it is a bit flat and he may struggle to extend it out to NBA three and get it off against higher level athletes consistently … Plays good defense, but doesn’t force as many turnovers as he should (0.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG) … Lacks an explosive first step to get by defenders … A common criticism of Bey is that he is too willing to give the ball up instead of taking defenders on … As a 6’8 small forward at the college level, he should have been a much better rebounder than he was … One of the older small forwards in this year’s class having turned 21 in April … Not a pure shooter? While he hit three point shots at an elite rate as a sophomore (45%), his 76% free throw shooting (64% as a freshman) is far from elite …


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The 8th overall will likely start Tier 3 in the first round. (This is a draft where Tier 3 could last 8-10 players) I don't see Haliburton and Vassel falling to 8th ( even with Charlotte probably continuing to do something stupid and shifting everyone's draft board). I don't see Bey lasting past the top 10 of this draft. I recognize against most projections, this is a reach. I just don't think the Knicks can trade back from 8 and still be assured of getting him. Also, I just don't like most of the prospects in this draft.

In contrast, I like everything about Bey. I like how he projects for the long term. I think his game translates immediately to the NBA level. If the NCAA had a normal season, I think he would have shot much farther up in most pundits projections.

I want to be fair, I'm a football guy by trade and I tend to lean towards the same type of players given market forces/basic resource management, but I fully believe, given time to reveal it and barring major injury, that Saddiq Bey will be the best player in this entire draft class.

Thoughts?

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8/21/2020  3:20 PM
Vassell!
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8/21/2020  3:24 PM
smackeddog wrote:Vassell!

Vassell or Cole I think.

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8/21/2020  3:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/21/2020  3:42 PM
Don't think he will be the most impactful player in the draft, but I understand you're thinking. Villanova player, he has an NBA ready body and a solid three point shot. Reminds me a little bit of Jimmy Butler, a college four who has better wing skills than he was able to show. Also, Walter Perrin seems to lean towards these type of players. High floor, but is it better than Vassel's don't think so. I think Vassel, at the very least, is going to be a solid 3 and D in the Ariza mold. Does he have a higher upside than Okoro? I don't think so. Okoro is a superior athlete and better passer. Bey is a safer pick tho. Nesmith? Better shooter. You're right, that these guys all grade out around the same. Bey would be reach at 8 but I could see someone being talked into it after a good workout.
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8/21/2020  3:56 PM
Kira or we’ll regret it
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8/21/2020  4:38 PM
TripleThreat wrote:-snip-

Strengths: Scrappy, confident, high energy forward who broke out this season into one of the most productive players in the Big East … Outstanding three-point shooter who finished at 45% for the season on a high volume of shots (2.5 made threes per game) … Elite catch and shoot perimeter player … High motor, versatile player with the size to play the SF position at the next level (6’8, 216 pounds) and with a near 7-foot wingspan … An overachiever. Bey is a two-way player who stood out on both sides of the ball for #10 Villanova Wildcats this season … Knock down shooter from both mid-range and beyond the arc … Held his own in limited post opportunities this season … Strong and determined defender who can successfully defend 2s, 3s, and (college) 4s … Physical on both offense and defense … Does a good job of playing deliberate and when he sees an open look, there’s no hesitation, the shot is going up … Quick release allows him to get up uncontested threes before help defenders can arrive … Strength, size, and length allow him to take advantage of mismatches against smaller guards … Showcases above average handles for someone with his size … Gives relentless effort whenever he is in the game… While it is not his specialty, he is able to create for others around him … Respectable free throw shooter who will only improve … Takes care of the ball and passes well for a forward … 1.61 AST/TO was one of the best in the nation among forwards …

Weaknesses: Limited athletically. While Bey gets the most out of his abilities, some feel that he has peaked to some degree developmentally … Lacks great fluidity and is not the greatest run/jump athlete … Has he peaked to some degree? Can create shots for others, but struggles at times to create his own shot … While his shot was very consistent and effective, it is a bit flat and he may struggle to extend it out to NBA three and get it off against higher level athletes consistently … Plays good defense, but doesn’t force as many turnovers as he should (0.8 SPG, 0.4 BPG) … Lacks an explosive first step to get by defenders … A common criticism of Bey is that he is too willing to give the ball up instead of taking defenders on … As a 6’8 small forward at the college level, he should have been a much better rebounder than he was … One of the older small forwards in this year’s class having turned 21 in April … Not a pure shooter? While he hit three point shots at an elite rate as a sophomore (45%), his 76% free throw shooting (64% as a freshman) is far from elite …


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The 8th overall will likely start Tier 3 in the first round. (This is a draft where Tier 3 could last 8-10 players) I don't see Haliburton and Vassel falling to 8th ( even with Charlotte probably continuing to do something stupid and shifting everyone's draft board). I don't see Bey lasting past the top 10 of this draft. I recognize against most projections, this is a reach. I just don't think the Knicks can trade back from 8 and still be assured of getting him. Also, I just don't like most of the prospects in this draft.

In contrast, I like everything about Bey. I like how he projects for the long term. I think his game translates immediately to the NBA level. If the NCAA had a normal season, I think he would have shot much farther up in most pundits projections.

I want to be fair, I'm a football guy by trade and I tend to lean towards the same type of players given market forces/basic resource management, but I fully believe, given time to reveal it and barring major injury, that Saddiq Bey will be the best player in this entire draft class.

Thoughts?

At eight, its a legitimate stretch pick along the lines of Kevin Knox. I suspect less risky talent will drop our way.

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8/21/2020  6:44 PM
smackeddog wrote:Vassell!
Yup yup
With The 8th Overall, The NY Knicks Should Select Villanova Wildcat Saddiq Bey

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