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Late Draft Shooters For 2020 - Sam Merrill, Immanuel Quickley and Kristian Doolittle
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TripleThreat
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8/19/2020  6:15 AM

Knicks need guys who can shoot long range. As later draft possibilities and/or possible UDFA reaches, there might be some value here. Obviously they have more flaws implied but that's the trade off for possible availability. Maybe the Knicks can buy another 2nd round pick at some point.

Thoughts?


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Sam Merrill

Position: Guard
Height: 6-5
Weight: 205
School: Utah State

Perhaps the most cold-blooded shotmaker in college basketball this season, Sam Merrill was an offensive monster for Utah State, scoring 2,197 points in four seasons for the Aggies. In his senior season, he averaged 19.7 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.9 assists..... shooting 42.0 percent from the three-point line and 89.1 percent from the free throw line over his four seasons at Utah State. He has deep range on this three-point shot and can make them in a variety of ways. He has a nice crossover and step-back combo .... He’ll also run around screens and execute dribble-handoffs ... He doesn’t need much room to get his shot off and can make shots with a defender in his face, which makes that 42.0 three-point percentage even more impressive.

He’s not just a shooter, though, which makes him such a tantalizing prospect. Merrill is also an impressive passer and has tremendous potential as a pick-and-roll ball handler because teams will have to honor his three-point shot. When he drives, he generally makes good decisions and gets teammates the ball in optimal scoring positions. He had a better than 2-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio in each of the last two seasons, which is excellent for a player who was the fulcrum of the offense. He’s skilled, he’s heady and he plays in control. He also has good height for an NBA ball handler at 6-foot-5.


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Immanuel Quickley

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 188
School: Kentucky

Immanuel Quickley - SEC Player of the Year honors....For the season, he shot nearly 43 percent from three-point range, and during SEC play, that number ballooned to nearly 48 percent. From his freshman to his sophomore season, he doubled his perimeter shooting volume, taking almost five threes per game this past season. One thing that always shows me a player is a good natural shooter is free throws. Quickley was No. 3 in the nation in free throw percentage and the No. 1 power conference player at over 92 percent.

He's also an excellent defender. Quickley's 6-foot-8 wingspan, rangy form and speed allow him to stay in front of both quick guards and crafty scorers. He uses his strength, which is deceiving given his slight frame, and can absorb contact on a driver in the lane as well as when he's going to the hoop to finish.


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Doolittle is a 6’7”, 232-pound forward, who averaged 13.9 points, 9.2 rebounds and 1.9 assists per 36 minutes over his collegiate career. His shooting splits indicates some ability from range at 45.5/37.4/78.0 shooting percentages from two, three and the free throw line.

..... As a career 37% shooter from deep, he possesses some ability to stretch the floor like a natural wing, however this performance was on a small sample size (just over one attempt per game).

Doolittle has a pretty solid handle of the ball in space, displaying a range of crossover dribbles and instant change of direction for someone his size. He has a smooth mid range game, wherein he can face up and dribble sidestep to either side, allowing him rise up and fire over just about anyone.

Everything from 18 feet and in is his primary territory of attack. Doolittle finished well around the rim, posting a mark of 1.2 PPP (points per possession) inside the restricted area. He plays well in narrow spaces on both ends of the floor, getting skinny to fight around screens and dribble through tight spaces.....

Cutting is one way that Doolittle is able to collect easy points when the defense is caught sleeping. At 1.31 PPP in possessions ending in a cut, he picks his spots well and finishes at the rack with authority.

Doolittle grabbed over 20% of all available defensive rebounds and 7% on the offensive end, both strong marks. He doesn’t just go through the motion when a shot goes up, always finding a body to back down before grabbing boards. He has good lower body strength and balance too, which allows him to secure his position while waiting for the ball to come off the rim.

Shot selection is a major worry for Doolittle, as he’s either running hot or cold, and he too often allows an irrational confidence to dictate when and where he lets shots fly...... wasn’t overly efficient in any play type. He only ended 18 possessions with a catch-and-shoot opportunity his senior year in 942 game minutes, for a PPP of exactly 1. Additionally a minus creator for himself, with both his isolation possession and his pull up jumper possession coming in at below 1 PPP..... under two assists per 36 minutes and an assist-to-turnover ratio below 1.

Age is definitely a factor here, as he’ll be 23 by draft night. Additionally, Doolittle was suspended for the fall semester of his sophomore year due to academic issues. That’s not a major concern in itself but that season was clearly his worst of his four on campus, possibly taking a period to get adjusted after missing the majority of the Sooners’ out of conference schedule.

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Bonus from another thread -



https://www.thestepien.com/2020/03/30/killian-tillie-scouting-report/


Killian Tillie

Position: Forward
Height: 6-10
Weight: 220
School: Gonzaga

... In four years at Gonzaga, he dealt with knee surgery, a torn ligament in his foot, a stress fracture in his ankle, numerous sprained ankles, a broken finger and a hip pointer. The long list of injuries forced him to miss a total of 38 games during his college career.

..... He's 6-10 with exceptional three-point shooting ability. He can handle the ball, pass and generally has terrific instincts on the offensive end of the floor.

Tillie averaged 13.6 points and 5.0 rebounds and shot an even 40 percent from long range during his senior season. He was one of the best players on a Gonzaga team that had a 31-2 record. Tillie finished his college career as a 44 percent three-point shooter and enters the NBA Draft as a proven winner with a track record of solid production for one of the premier programs in the country.

At 22 years old, he's a polished offensive player with an excellent basketball IQ. Tillie was also very efficient in the pick-and-roll at Gonzaga, whether it was rolling to the basket or popping out to the perimeter for an open jumper. He will likely be utilized as a pick-and-pop forward in the NBA.

Tillie won't be confused for a slasher who gets to the basket, but he does have the ability to score in the paint. His solid footwork and soft touch make him an effective scorer on the low block. He'll do most of his scoring from the perimeter, but he's versatile enough to exploit size mismatches inside.

Tillie is also an above-average passer for a big man. Gonzaga often ran its offense through Tillie, who served as a facilitator from the top of the key or in the high post. He sees the floor extremely well, a trait that figures to translate well to the pro game.

... Given the extent to which Tillie struggled to stay healthy in college, it's fair to wonder whether his body can withstand the rigors of an 82-game NBA season. His knee, ankle and foot problems are especially concerning. Those are the type of injuries that tend to derail careers, especially for big men like Tillie.

His lack of elite foot speed and strength limits his defensive ability. Will stronger, more athletic forwards take advantage of him? His size and understanding of the game should make him a passable defender, but he'll never be great on that end of the floor.

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8/19/2020  7:09 AM
Quickly will absolutely be on the 2nd radar. He’s a Kentucky guy and offers some 3&D role player potential. Obviously lack of size and athletic ability holds him back from being a 1st round prospect, but he’s a great 2nd round prospect because no doubt he can carve a role in the league.
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8/19/2020  7:25 AM
Excellent post and thought process TT.
This is how Miami got D Robinson.
TT we have 3 picks in the top 37. I’d be willing to buy a pick for 2-4 players sans our 3 but no one you’ve listed will likely be drafted— so let’s let them fall through and take a look after the draft.
Also I’m a fan of Iggy. I would easily pick him over any of these guys— he’s a player who we’ve invested into development. But I like the thought process here abd if the Knicks can find a specialty player past 38 or after the draft— always go for it to get a good look
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8/19/2020  8:07 AM
Knixkik wrote:Quickly will absolutely be on the 2nd radar. He’s a Kentucky guy and offers some 3&D role player potential. Obviously lack of size and athletic ability holds him back from being a 1st round prospect, but he’s a great 2nd round prospect because no doubt he can carve a role in the league.

I like Quickly as a 2nd rounder if he is there. Not only can he shoot, but he's crafty and has a knack for getting to the free throw line which is a skill in itself.

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8/19/2020  8:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/19/2020  8:12 AM
Here is another elite shooter who may be available in the 2nd round. Very good rebounder and understands how to play the game...

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8/19/2020  8:22 AM
Bonus shooter - Antonija Misura


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8/19/2020  9:07 AM
Uptown wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Quickly will absolutely be on the 2nd radar. He’s a Kentucky guy and offers some 3&D role player potential. Obviously lack of size and athletic ability holds him back from being a 1st round prospect, but he’s a great 2nd round prospect because no doubt he can carve a role in the league.

I like Quickly as a 2nd rounder if he is there. Not only can he shoot, but he's crafty and has a knack for getting to the free throw line which is a skill in itself.

I question if he can become a plus defender in the league, but i think he has a little of seth curry in his game and should translate to a solid bench shooter.

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8/19/2020  9:31 AM
TripleThreat wrote:Bonus shooter - Antonija Misura


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8/19/2020  10:27 AM
I like what I saw from Merrill. He seems to move well around the court and can shoot quickly even with opposition. A Reddick like player would help a great deal. We have plus defenders that could compensate if he lags a bit in this department.
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8/19/2020  11:04 AM
TripleThreat wrote:Bonus shooter - Antonija Misura



Obvious pick with our second rounder.
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8/24/2020  2:23 AM


Offensive Summary:

One of the most versatile shooters in the class (spot up, off-movement, off-the-dribble)
Really good shotmaker & has the ability to make off-balanced shots
Impressive passer and sees the floor really well
Doesn’t have great burst, which hurts his ability to get into the lane often, but above-average handle and ability to get low helps make up for some of it
High IQ shows w/ his passing & his ability to read the defense when running off screens

Defensive Summary:

Struggles defensively and it may be best to try and hide him on this end
Doesn’t have particularly slow feet, but doesn’t do a great job at stopping penetration
Smart team defender with good awareness and positioning. Knows when to stunt and dig towards ball, as well as when to help / tag roll man
Solid technique with pick and roll defense but lack of strength sometimes results in him losing balance after getting hit by screen
Opposing players are sometimes able to drive through and finish over him because of size

Questions:

Will the special shotmaking translate to the next level?
Can he be hidden on defense? If not, will his offense outweigh his negative defense?

Future Outlook:

Rotation Player

Outcomes:

High: Special shotmaker (spot up, off-the-dribble, and off-movement) and really good passer, who can be hidden on defense in certain matchups, but will still be a negative defensively. Could potentially start, but probably not an ideal player you’d want closing.
Medium: Really good shotmaker (spot up, off-the-dribble, and off-movement) and an above-average passer, but is a negative defensively. Would need to surround him with good defenders or hide him on players who can’t take advantage of him (matchup dependent). Can give a solid 22-25 minutes, but not someone who should be closing games.
Low: Good shotmaker (spot up, off-the-dribble, and off-movement) and a good passer, but is a big negative defensively. His offense (mostly shotmaking) doesn’t translate as much as you’d hope and him being a liability defensively makes it tough for him to get consistent minutes.

Offensive Role: Really good pick and roll player, but can also play off-ball (spot-up / run off screens). Ability to play on and off the ball gives some lineup flexibility. Could succeed in a Devonte’ Graham type of role off the bench, which is valuable.

Defensive Role: Most likely going to have to be hidden on the defensive end. Can survive if he’s surrounded by good defensive players – including a good rim protector – but should most likely be put on someone who just spots up on the perimeter or doesn’t have a great offensive game. In close games and in the playoffs, his minutes might be a little more matchup dependent and a team might not want him closing games.

NBA Comparison: Eric Snow

Strengths: Winston is a outstanding college PG who will be wrapping up a legendary career at Michigan State that includes a Final 4, a Big 10 POY award, and the school’s all-time assists record … Winston is a very smart PG with good floor vision, passing skills and an excellent feel for the game … Savvy player, can run an offense and get teammates good shots and put them favorable spots with consistency while also using change of pace and shiftiness to create for himself off the dribble … Decent shooting ability, can hit open shots and shots off the dribble at an adequate or better rate … Has floaters in his arsenal, which will be needed for his style of play and physical attributes … Good pick and roll player, is a threat to kick out to shooters on the perimeter or hit the screener for an open shot to keep the defense on their heels … Generally keeps bad decisions to a minimum…Has matured his offensive game from more of below average scorer and shooter, to a 18 ppg scorer and close to 40% from 3 on 5 attempts/game over the last 2 seasons … Somewhat of an overachieving type, Winston is tough and will play through injuries and gut out performances in crunch time … Is a good FT shooter, someone you can trust with the ball late in ball games … Leadership skills and intangibles are among the best in the 2020 draft class, highly unselfish and by all accounts a good teammate and student athlete …

Weaknesses: Winston is not physically gifted, standing at an ordinary 6’1 190 lbs without any true NBA-level athleticism to speak of … Not particularly quick or explosive, will have trouble finishing at the rim and playing defense against other PGs in the NBA … Also has a very unathletic looking body type … For as cerebral as he is, he can be turnover prone and did at times cost his team games by coughing up the ball too much … Has put up pretty good shooting numbers in his college career, but his release is a bit on the slow side and it figures to be easier to defend at the next level … Doesn’t look great in the open court … Wasn’t anything special as an on-ball defender in college, doesn’t really create turnovers or get under the skin of opposing guards the way most undersized guards do … Has to rely on smarts and skill solely to win matchups due to limited physical profile …

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8/24/2020  11:23 AM
This is definitely a great draft to find the next Joe Harris/Seth Curry type shooter.
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8/24/2020  12:06 PM
i'd be on board with Quickley. I saw him in one game and from that admittedly insignificant sample size thought his game would translate to NBA

Also Kentucky has an interesting history where sometimes the second or third guys (e.g., SGA, Booker, Bam ) do better, or close to better, than the earlier picks(e.g., KK, KAT, (fox or Monk)) but drop to a value pick

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Late Draft Shooters For 2020 - Sam Merrill, Immanuel Quickley and Kristian Doolittle

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