BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

I’m going to bypass the Pgs up top even though I like Halliburton to either get my David Robinson like player or my Klay Thompson/ Nike Redd

I love Pritchard at 27 and drafting him there will give Frank the chance to start— though Pritchard is my guy for the future

There’s too many good names at 37 not to get some quality — draft is deep through 45 imho

New Pritchard draft video out— it’s fantastic and really showcases his skills— even compares him to FVV

I agree but surprised you don’t mention Bane at 27. Maybe you didn’t see him play being at TCU but he has Nesmith type ability, just slightly less talent. Either Haliburton or Nesmith is fine in the lottery but Haliburton is my top guy. Bey would be great but don’t see him at 27. Bane is my guy and I’ll happily grab Pritchard if he’s there in the second round. Haliburton, Bane, and Pritchard. That’s my ideal draft. Shooting, playmaking and toughness in that group.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

I’m going to bypass the Pgs up top even though I like Halliburton to either get my David Robinson like player or my Klay Thompson/ Nike Redd

I love Pritchard at 27 and drafting him there will give Frank the chance to start— though Pritchard is my guy for the future

There’s too many good names at 37 not to get some quality — draft is deep through 45 imho

New Pritchard draft video out— it’s fantastic and really showcases his skills— even compares him to FVV

I agree but surprised you don’t mention Bane at 27. Maybe you didn’t see him play being at TCU but he has Nesmith type ability, just slightly less talent. Either Haliburton or Nesmith is fine in the lottery but Haliburton is my top guy. Bey would be great but don’t see him at 27. Bane is my guy and I’ll happily grab Pritchard if he’s there in the second round. Haliburton, Bane, and Pritchard. That’s my ideal draft. Shooting, playmaking and toughness in that group.

I think whoever gets Nesmith is getting a steal. I think he was headed toward a top 3 pick but like Wiseman they are both being undervalued by out of site out of mind. There’s no player in this draft who can physically match Wiseman( IMO) and Nesmith to me is a Mike Redd Allan Houston Klay Thompson type player worthy of a top 5 pick

BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

Saddiq Bey will be gone before the 20s

Boston is looking to dump it's first rounders if they can shed money. They also want to dump Gordon Hayward. Maybe there's some opportunity there to be had.

There are rumblings out there regarding World Wide Wes and Tyrese Maxey. Whether the Knicks will be in a position to get him remains to be seen. Kira Lewis might make it to that range (doubtful) but if he does, would have a hard time seeing the Knicks pass him up.

Kira Lewis' name is the one I've been hearing the most buzz on in the past couple of weeks.

This is a bit of a complex draft in that Tier 4 could encompass like 15-20 players. It's not a strong draft, and the COVID19 stuff only makes it more chaotic. A lot of guys could drop to the Knicks in the late 20s. Though I don't see Saddiq Bey making it that far down.

To buy a very late first rounder, the Knicks would need to surrender their 2nd rounder this year in the mix to do it. That's another complication. Other teams are less likely to outright sell a pick as more as get paid to move back.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

Saddiq Bey will be gone before the 20s

Boston is looking to dump it's first rounders if they can shed money. They also want to dump Gordon Hayward. Maybe there's some opportunity there to be had.

There are rumblings out there regarding World Wide Wes and Tyrese Maxey. Whether the Knicks will be in a position to get him remains to be seen. Kira Lewis might make it to that range (doubtful) but if he does, would have a hard time seeing the Knicks pass him up.

Kira Lewis' name is the one I've been hearing the most buzz on in the past couple of weeks.

This is a bit of a complex draft in that Tier 4 could encompass like 15-20 players. It's not a strong draft, and the COVID19 stuff only makes it more chaotic. A lot of guys could drop to the Knicks in the late 20s. Though I don't see Saddiq Bey making it that far down.

To buy a very late first rounder, the Knicks would need to surrender their 2nd rounder this year in the mix to do it. That's another complication. Other teams are less likely to outright sell a pick as more as get paid to move back.

Ive been wondering how the FO will look at this draft, knowing that we might not see NCAA hoops for a while. Does mgmt see this as the last chance to load up on draft talent, which they've scouted recently? Do they look to Europe? What isnt supposed to be a deep draft might carry more weight than usual.

If there was a front office which Id lean towards believing they would trade up to draft a player, this would be the one. Guessing Rose and Wesley cant wait to make some deals. We'll see if its this draft.

GustavBahler wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

Saddiq Bey will be gone before the 20s

Boston is looking to dump it's first rounders if they can shed money. They also want to dump Gordon Hayward. Maybe there's some opportunity there to be had.

There are rumblings out there regarding World Wide Wes and Tyrese Maxey. Whether the Knicks will be in a position to get him remains to be seen. Kira Lewis might make it to that range (doubtful) but if he does, would have a hard time seeing the Knicks pass him up.

Kira Lewis' name is the one I've been hearing the most buzz on in the past couple of weeks.

This is a bit of a complex draft in that Tier 4 could encompass like 15-20 players. It's not a strong draft, and the COVID19 stuff only makes it more chaotic. A lot of guys could drop to the Knicks in the late 20s. Though I don't see Saddiq Bey making it that far down.

To buy a very late first rounder, the Knicks would need to surrender their 2nd rounder this year in the mix to do it. That's another complication. Other teams are less likely to outright sell a pick as more as get paid to move back.

Ive been wondering how the FO will look at this draft, knowing that we might not see NCAA hoops for a while. Does mgmt see this as the last chance to load up on draft talent, which they've scouted recently? Do they look to Europe? What isnt supposed to be a deep draft might carry more weight than usual.

If there was a front office which Id lean towards believing they would trade up to draft a player, this would be the one. Guessing Rose and Wesley cant wait to make some deals. We'll see if its this draft.

2 of the top 5 Hs prospects have opted to forgo college and play in the G league- Jalen Green and Jonathan Kaminga. Not sure if the G League will have a bubble-season next year. Regardless, these kids have been scouted since HS, so they are well known within these organizations.

The top four prospects for next years draft are:
Cade Cunningham
Jalen Green
Johnathan Kaminga
Evan Mobley

If these four were available to be drafted this year, this would most likely be the top 4 picks! Cunningham and Green would definitely go 1 and 2! Next years draft will be better than this years draft, especially at the top.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Either Wiseman or Nesmith

27 Either Payton Pritchard Saddiq Bey or Paul Reed

And we are gonna get a good nba player at 37 as well— need to see who falls.

I’m going to bypass the Pgs up top even though I like Halliburton to either get my David Robinson like player or my Klay Thompson/ Nike Redd

I love Pritchard at 27 and drafting him there will give Frank the chance to start— though Pritchard is my guy for the future

There’s too many good names at 37 not to get some quality — draft is deep through 45 imho

New Pritchard draft video out— it’s fantastic and really showcases his skills— even compares him to FVV

I agree but surprised you don’t mention Bane at 27. Maybe you didn’t see him play being at TCU but he has Nesmith type ability, just slightly less talent. Either Haliburton or Nesmith is fine in the lottery but Haliburton is my top guy. Bey would be great but don’t see him at 27. Bane is my guy and I’ll happily grab Pritchard if he’s there in the second round. Haliburton, Bane, and Pritchard. That’s my ideal draft. Shooting, playmaking and toughness in that group.

I think whoever gets Nesmith is getting a steal. I think he was headed toward a top 3 pick but like Wiseman they are both being undervalued by out of site out of mind. There’s no player in this draft who can physically match Wiseman( IMO) and Nesmith to me is a Mike Redd Allan Houston Klay Thompson type player worthy of a top 5 pick

I’m all for Nesmith because I believe our 2 biggest needs this summer are a PG that can shoot and a game changing wing shooter. Nesmith definitely fits. But if we go with him (or Wiseman even though I don’t like him for this team) we better be sure someone like VanVleet or Chris Paul is already lined up because we need to address the PG position with a real impact player. If Haliburton is there though I’d be hesitant to pass him up because I see a complete guard similar to Jrue holiday. Nesmith I definitely see klay thompson or a bigger Buddy Hield. Whichever position between PG and wing is addressed in the draft we need to address the other via trade/free agency.

PG FVV or CP
SG Barrett
SF Nesmith

Or

PG Haliburton
SG Barrett
SF Joe Harris

I can get behind either one of those plans.

Have been a long time advocate for Nesmith. I definitely view him as a two, but could inter change with RJ no problem.

His season was cut short and I think this really affected his stock. Potential steal agreed. View him as a special perimeter offensive talent this alone ( defence aside ) should keep him around the league for some time. Perhaps Thibs would utilise him like Rip Hamilton from his CHI days? I take Nesmith ( and Vassell ) over Deni all day, on the basis of talent and fit.

Haliburton is my preferred point guard pick. Best all around game, decent size and length. If that’s how things shake out. I’m so intrigued by the tape I’ve seen thus far on Jared Harper! Reminiscent of a certain little Nate I remember.

If we miss out on PG in draft & FA ( or disappointed with selection ) I would like to see Harper and Lamar Peters get some minutes. Different looks although that’s not very Thibs.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Knixkik wrote:
I’m all for Nesmith because I believe our 2 biggest needs this summer are a PG that can shoot and a game changing wing shooter. Nesmith definitely fits. But if we go with him (or Wiseman even though I don’t like him for this team) we better be sure someone like VanVleet or Chris Paul is already lined up because we need to address the PG position with a real impact player. If Haliburton is there though I’d be hesitant to pass him up because I see a complete guard similar to Jrue holiday. Nesmith I definitely see klay thompson or a bigger Buddy Hield. Whichever position between PG and wing is addressed in the draft we need to address the other via trade/free agency.

PG FVV or CP
SG Barrett
SF Nesmith

Or

PG Haliburton
SG Barrett
SF Joe Harris

I can get behind either one of those plans.

I like the idea of Nesmith, a shooter like him can fit right away alongside drive-and-dish players like DSJr and RJ. At the very worst he will be a stronger and more athletic version of Hubert Davis, not a bad thing to have at all.

But would rather trade down from 6 to get Nesmith plus some other assets in the process.

And I would stay away from expensive signings this year. FVV and Harris are great, but not for our situation. CP I would take on if OKC offers us a king's ransom for swallowing up his contract for 2 years while we rebuild. But why would CP want any part of us?

I would prefer us to build a contender from the ground up. I find little value or pride in a championship won for a city by an out-of-town hired gun, who's here today, gone tomorrow. We should first build a solid core of young players, and only then maybe add a proven star as the last piece to put us over the top.

Chris Paul would only want to come here based on his relationship with Leon and Wes. I still believe Melo will likely end up here and he is obviously close with Melo, as well as very close with Reggie Bullock who will likely be on the roster next year. I don't see him wanting to stay in OKC beyond this year too.

BRIGGS wrote:

IMO, not alot of this kids game is gonna translate into the NBA. He looks like Reddick shooting wise, and the rest of his game looks great in college but all I see is Steve Blake at the NBA level. His finishing at the rim is gonna take a huge hit. Those passes are mostly gonna get tipped. He is also gonna get Abused (capital A not a typo) on defense.