TripleThreat wrote:

Knixkik wrote: Maybe we can steal him for 4 years/60 mil.

That possibility might have been much larger had Kenny Atkinson become head coach.

Three factors here

1) How would Harris function as the primary ball handler. At this point, by default, that could very likely happen if was ever on the roster.

2) Would the natural pathway to be on the Knicks ( let's run the hypothetical) be a sign and trade? If so, what would it cost?

3) From what I'm hearing, there is an internal push by Nike to get Russell Westbrook to either a LA team or a NY team before the Rockets implode. They want a return on their investment. Of course, Durant doesn't want to play with RWB, so that's a wrinkle there. But the Joe Harris situation (the money) has to account for the desire by Nike/Durant/Irving to add a third "star" onto their roster.

Tilman Fertitta apparently has put the word out that he's willing to "sell" Russell Westbrook. Depending on what the Dolan family is willing to do off the court, RWB could be a Knick.

The Rockets have really painted themselves into a corner, giving up picks taking on Westbrooks salary- don't see how they improve much over the next few years and their owner is having money troubles (and was stingy before that). Just Harden, Westbrook and Gordon alone has their salary at almost $100mil per season for the next 3- by the 3rd year its $120mil!!!!

No way I'm taking on Westbrook's 3yr $150mil salary, and they can't trade any firsts to offer any kind of incentive. Wouldn't be surprised if they end up trading Harden in a season or two, maybe to OKC for all those picks.

technomaster wrote:Joe Harris put up some solid numbers in recent seasons. He seems like a good solid player if given the right role.

Though to be honest, help me understand how he'd work out differently than some recent Knicks players in that backup wing player sort of role - Courtney Lee, Wayne Ellington, Lance Thomas, Reggie Bullock, Doug McDermott... all of these guys were supposed to provide that "hit the open jumper" sort of role and provide quality minutes when they're on the floor.

I don't think he's a $15m/yr sort of player, but my understanding of NBA salary is quite warped every since the cap freed up a few years ago.

He’s much much better than all of those players you listed.

Uptown wrote:Why sign a 3 pt specialist for 60 mil when we can draft one (Bane) at the end of the first round on a rookie deal that wont eat up some of our cap space?

Because he's not just a 3pt specialist and because we need more than one. We need both Harris and Bane. We need a team loaded with shooters, not just 1 or 2. Getting a shooter is one thing, but we need to get the best shooters. A top tier guy.

Uptown wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Uptown wrote:Why sign a 3 pt specialist for 60 mil when we can draft one (Bane) at the end of the first round on a rookie deal that wont eat up some of our cap space?

Because he's not just a 3pt specialist and because we need more than one. We need both Harris and Bane. We need a team loaded with shooters, not just 1 or 2. Getting a shooter is one thing, but we need to get the best shooters. A top tier guy.

Of course we need more than one. The cupboard is bare and we need a serious influx of talent but its going to take time. Joe Harris is a decent player who will barely move the needle for us. Due to covid 19, we are dealing with a new NBA. Owners are losing money and reports are that some are willing to move picks for cash and at some point, some really good players may become available. Having cap space during these days and times is a valuable asset. We need to patient.

It would be a disaster if we blow our space on Joe Harris and Bertans and next year, a couple of allstars become available who otherwise wouldn't be due to this new landscape we are dealing with.

Correct, but we need to think about RJ and Mitch first (and our PG if we draft one.) We need to get difference makers who compliment them if they are going to develop. My suggestion is to bring in 1 guy who can do this, and obviously continue to build up the cupboard using the draft. Bringing in 1 guy like Harris does not break the bank for the future, but it shows that developing our best prospects is a main priority. You can't just put shooters like Bane and Bullock next to Barrett and expect that to work. You need a difference maker that compliments him and then fill the bench and development pipeline with the young guys who may or may not be able to contribute right away. But by no means am i saying break the bank on these guys, i'm saying bring in 1 guy who can make a difference from a developmental standpoint. A true complimentary piece.

houston20 wrote:Rather go with malik beasely from the wolves younger and does lot more things then harris.

I'm not sure- I read Beasley is a bad defender

houston20 wrote:Rather go with malik beasely from the wolves younger and does lot more things then harris.

Malik beasely avaraged 20 points,5.1 rebound. 47 percent field goals, 42 percent from three point land in 14 games once he got trade from denver and was a starter. Joe harris is just a shooter that's all he not really defender if his shot isn't going he doesn't do anything else well.

FVF 18mm
JH 15mm
CW 8mm
WCS 8mm

Van Fleet/Ntlikina/SmithJr
Barrett
Harris/Bullock/Knox/Brazdeikis
Randle/Wood
Robinson/Cauley-Stein

Fill out the roster with the three draft picks. Look for a trade for a disgruntled superstar using some combination of Randle and the remaining players.