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7/28/2020  11:01 AM
So players, staff, and owners who have millions on the line can't keep coronavirus from spreading amongst themselves, good luck with the season.

No idea how schools in Aug/Sept are going to be kept open really.

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martin wrote:So players, staff, and owners who have millions on the line can't keep coronavirus from spreading amongst themselves, good luck with the season.

No idea how schools in Aug/Sept are going to be kept open really.

Not sure what they were thinking really, but we've seen people be completely delusional over this.

Makes me wonder what will happen for next nba season- maybe a few bubbles if Orlando is a success. Can't keep players locked up all season, so maybe split the nba into separate groups and rotate them, so half the nba are playing at one time. logistical nightmare but don't see the alternative unless there's a vaccine by November (haven't discounted that possibility yet)

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7/28/2020  2:47 PM
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martin wrote:So players, staff, and owners who have millions on the line can't keep coronavirus from spreading amongst themselves, good luck with the season.

No idea how schools in Aug/Sept are going to be kept open really.

Not sure what they were thinking really, but we've seen people be completely delusional over this.

Makes me wonder what will happen for next nba season- maybe a few bubbles if Orlando is a success. Can't keep players locked up all season, so maybe split the nba into separate groups and rotate them, so half the nba are playing at one time. logistical nightmare but don't see the alternative unless there's a vaccine by November (haven't discounted that possibility yet)

I think the answer are vaccines - this thing is so horrible - I'm sure not of the marlins are that sick - I hope- but for those few that react badly, it's awful.

The vaccines will be used, whether they are ready or not, because we have to get on with life - and I'm not talking watching/playing sports, I'm talking about having your kids go to school and not come back with a lethal virus that kills you or their grand parents.

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7/28/2020  3:11 PM
This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

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7/28/2020  3:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/28/2020  3:41 PM
knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

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knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

I didn't say all died, In fact i didn't say none of it, I'm just stating what she said.

I don't claim to have any answers to this covid thing, I don't think anyone on earth really does either, all you can do is proceed with caution.

prevention seems to be face mask and washing your hands frequently.

The problem with the face mask is the Breathing, the eating and drinking, the heat, having to repeat yourself 5 times because people cant always fully understand WTH your saying, sometimes people forget and don't feel like going back to the car or home for it..I'm sure we have all experience one of the above

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7/28/2020  4:41 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

I love that you are bring up the mitigating actions we have taken to limit deaths and the numbers are still this high. People who compare it to the flu makes no sense. It has already killed more than the flu does yearly in a few months with a lockdown, masks and social distancing.

Could you imagine how many would be dead without those mitigation's? Especially since this virus is almost 3 times as infectious as the flu. The guy in the video below explains the crazy math behind the flu's 1.3 to 1.4 infection rate vs Covid 19s 3 infection rate. After the flu is passed on 10 times 14 people will be infected with the flu vs Covids 59,000 if it is passed on 10 times.

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7/28/2020  4:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/28/2020  4:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

I didn't say all died, In fact i didn't say none of it, I'm just stating what she said.

I don't claim to have any answers to this covid thing, I don't think anyone on earth really does either, all you can do is proceed with caution.

prevention seems to be face mask and washing your hands frequently.

The problem with the face mask is the Breathing, the eating and drinking, the heat, having to repeat yourself 5 times because people cant always fully understand WTH your saying, sometimes people forget and don't feel like going back to the car or home for it..I'm sure we have all experience one of the above

And other (including people on this board) have experienced a loved one dying from it and the exhaustion of working on the front line in hospitals Treating people who are severely ill from it in very difficult conditions). Faffing about with a mask is a slight inconvenience, it’s not a hardship. The alternative is infinitely worse. It’s on a par with having to put on sunscreen when going somewhere hot and sunny (to avoid getting burnt or getting skin cancer) or wrapping up in warm but heavy clothes in winter to avoid getting hypothermia. I swear if sunscreen and warm jackets were only just invented today there would be uproar by people refusing to use either because they find them inconvenient and don’t believe in sun burn, skin cancer or hypothermia.

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7/28/2020  5:37 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

I didn't say all died, In fact i didn't say none of it, I'm just stating what she said.

I don't claim to have any answers to this covid thing, I don't think anyone on earth really does either, all you can do is proceed with caution.

prevention seems to be face mask and washing your hands frequently.

The problem with the face mask is the Breathing, the eating and drinking, the heat, having to repeat yourself 5 times because people cant always fully understand WTH your saying, sometimes people forget and don't feel like going back to the car or home for it..I'm sure we have all experience one of the above

And other (including people on this board) have experienced a loved one dying from it and the exhaustion of working on the front line in hospitals Treating people who are severely ill from it in very difficult conditions). Faffing about with a mask is a slight inconvenience, it’s not a hardship. The alternative is infinitely worse. It’s on a par with having to put on sunscreen when going somewhere hot and sunny (to avoid getting burnt or getting skin cancer) or wrapping up in warm but heavy clothes in winter to avoid getting hypothermia. I swear if sunscreen and warm jackets were only just invented today there would be uproar by people refusing to use either because they find them inconvenient and don’t believe in sun burn, skin cancer or hypothermia.

This is something new to almost everyone one on earth, there's going to be an adjustment period. To make matters more difficult is the fact that it effects millions of people differently, some walk around for weeks with little to no symptoms and others die in a matter of days.


You can't stop sports because of this pandemic..

Did you know Domestic Violence has sky rocketed since this pandemic, and you don't need to be MATT LOCK to figure out why.

I Don't believe in coincidences dude, everything happens for a reason. You think the George Floyd incident would have gotten the same attention if everybody wasn't at home glued to their TV's, phones, lap tops by force, that ****s been going on before we were both born...

I'm not a religious person, but GOD has a plan and everybody has a time clock, all you can do is continue to educate yourself, try to make the right decisions, try to live life the right way and hope that pays off..

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knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This lady said on CNN yesterday that over 4 million people died or was seriously injured in car accidents last yr (with the seat belt law in place) why didn't we shut down the highways.

I think they said it's been a 99.9% recovery rate..

When you take those numbers into consideration, and the billions of $$ at stake..IDK

Because 37,000 people died in car accidents in the US last year not 4million. over 130,000 died of COVID-19 in just a limited outbreak WITH a lockdown to further limit the deaths. Imagine the numbers of a greater outbreak in all states.

Because the issue with COVID-19 is the recovery is so slow, the illness so contagious that if left unchecked it completely overwhelms the health system leading to a catastrophic cascade effect of soaring mortality rate (hospitals are beyond capacity so can’t treat any other case).

Furthermore the one term health implications are unknown- possible brain, heart, lung, kidney damage and more plus chronic fatigue. Why on earth nit just try and buy time until you get a vaccine- we might have one in November. Otherwise you could see millions of Avoidable deaths.

I didn't say all died, In fact i didn't say none of it, I'm just stating what she said.

I don't claim to have any answers to this covid thing, I don't think anyone on earth really does either, all you can do is proceed with caution.

prevention seems to be face mask and washing your hands frequently.

The problem with the face mask is the Breathing, the eating and drinking, the heat, having to repeat yourself 5 times because people cant always fully understand WTH your saying, sometimes people forget and don't feel like going back to the car or home for it..I'm sure we have all experience one of the above

And other (including people on this board) have experienced a loved one dying from it and the exhaustion of working on the front line in hospitals Treating people who are severely ill from it in very difficult conditions). Faffing about with a mask is a slight inconvenience, it’s not a hardship. The alternative is infinitely worse. It’s on a par with having to put on sunscreen when going somewhere hot and sunny (to avoid getting burnt or getting skin cancer) or wrapping up in warm but heavy clothes in winter to avoid getting hypothermia. I swear if sunscreen and warm jackets were only just invented today there would be uproar by people refusing to use either because they find them inconvenient and don’t believe in sun burn, skin cancer or hypothermia.

This is something new to almost everyone one on earth, there's going to be an adjustment period. To make matters more difficult is the fact that it effects millions of people differently, some walk around for weeks with little to no symptoms and others die in a matter of days.


You can't stop sports because of this pandemic..

Did you know Domestic Violence has sky rocketed since this pandemic, and you don't need to be MATT LOCK to figure out why.

I Don't believe in coincidences dude, everything happens for a reason. You think the George Floyd incident would have gotten the same attention if everybody wasn't at home glued to their TV's, phones, lap tops by force, that ****s been going on before we were both born...

I'm not a religious person, but GOD has a plan and everybody has a time clock, all you can do is continue to educate yourself, try to make the right decisions, try to live life the right way and hope that pays off..

Take your own advice!

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7/28/2020  5:53 PM
Comparing covid to car crashes is so ****ing stupid. There was also another idiot comparing drowning in pools awhile back to covid
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7/28/2020  5:58 PM
Think for the NFL they need to have mini bubbles per division. Have teams 4 team bubbles. They play each other for 3 weeks in a bubble. Then clean and test and go to the next 4 man bubble. Bubbles play in 1 stadium. 1pm and 4pm
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7/28/2020  6:04 PM
The NBA is a little more bubble feasible with teams of 15 as opposed to MLB pool of 60 and NFL 53. The future is probably a shorter season in geographic bubbles then everyone travels one time for the postseason. 50 games in 60 days or so then a postseason is a 3-4 month season, more like 6 if teams play every other day.
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7/28/2020  6:32 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Comparing covid to car crashes is so ****ing stupid. There was also another idiot comparing drowning in pools awhile back to covid

You can compare covid to a carcrash. That's fine... but wearing the mask = don't drink and drive, wear a seatbelt, don't text and drive etc...

The mask wearing will come closer to an end if everyone just accepts it and quits the big ass gatherings and wears a mask to where you want to go. It sucks but again, hopefully the vaccine really will help majorly. It's amazing people can't show a little self control.

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NYKBocker wrote: Think for the NFL they need to have mini bubbles per division. Have teams 4 team bubbles. They play each other for 3 weeks in a bubble. Then clean and test and go to the next 4 man bubble. Bubbles play in 1 stadium. 1pm and 4pm

MLB and the NFL have logistics that are too difficult to run a true bubble situation.

The problem the NBA will face is not just the current season, but the offseason. They can't keep people inside the bubble forever, and people in the league are going to get infected during the offseason.

The other factor no one wants to talk about is PEDS. Injury attrition is much higher in the NFL than the NBA, but all professional sports relies on PEDS to keep players on the field. Even a superstar athlete, the human body was not meant for this kind of attrition without some extra juice. Injury rates will become a problem in all sports. More extensive medical review on players will mean it is much harder, probably impossible, to run proper PEDs cycles correctly.

Strategically, since the Knicks are a cash rich team, they should set up a bubble right now and have all Knicks players and their families live in said bubble in the offseason. They should also hire as many fringe NBA veterans who are not on rosters now but were recently in the league and put them in isolation and give some bull**** cover story, pay them crypto under the table and have them train relentlessly for depth. If COVID19 attrition hits the league hard next year, the Knicks could technically win a championship via raw attrition

There is a real chance, if Nike loses two of their signature athletes to COVID19, they might pull half of their clients off the court. People will say the endorsements, the TV deal and blah blah blah, but Nike will think about the long term outlook. They can't risk all of their NBA client list to go down in one season.

The league next year could be very very open. ANY NBA team could technically be a contender next year. While slim, it could end up being whose G League scale roster is better than some other teams' G League roster. Latrell Sprewell, beer gut in a Knicks jersey, could limp over a hill of dead bodies to choke that championship trophy like it was PJ's neck.

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7/29/2020  11:16 AM
TripleThreat wrote:Latrell Sprewell, beer gut in a Knicks jersey, could limp over a hill of dead bodies to choke that championship trophy like it was PJ's neck.

hahahahahahaaha

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7/30/2020  1:31 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
NYKBocker wrote: Think for the NFL they need to have mini bubbles per division. Have teams 4 team bubbles. They play each other for 3 weeks in a bubble. Then clean and test and go to the next 4 man bubble. Bubbles play in 1 stadium. 1pm and 4pm

The other factor no one wants to talk about is PEDS. Injury attrition is much higher in the NFL than the NBA, but all professional sports relies on PEDS to keep players on the field. Even a superstar athlete, the human body was not meant for this kind of attrition without some extra juice. Injury rates will become a problem in all sports. More extensive medical review on players will mean it is much harder, probably impossible, to run proper PEDs cycles correctly.

No one talks about this for obvious reasons, but we know certain PEDs have adverse side effects like spiked blood sugar, cholesterol etc. I'd like to see studies on the impact "enhancements" have on the bodies ability to fight off covid.

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