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Knixkik
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7/26/2020  8:19 AM
Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

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Knixkik
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7/26/2020  8:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/26/2020  8:38 AM
One other thing to note. Thibs hire is great for Frank. I can see them forgoing a PG in the draft and going with a Teague/Frank pairing but most likely they view Frank as more of a combo guard who still fits even if they draft a PG and add a vet like Teague via FA.
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7/26/2020  8:39 AM
I think first and foremost, the goal is to take RJ, Mitch and Frank to the next level. Possibly Knox too. I sincerely think Thibs was hired for sake of getting that done, knowing that’s the easiest and cheapest way of taking the Knicks to the next level. If we got them and Iggy playing better and staying on the court, then we could at least be fighting for a playoff spot.
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Knixkik
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7/26/2020  9:18 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I think first and foremost, the goal is to take RJ, Mitch and Frank to the next level. Possibly Knox too. I sincerely think Thibs was hired for sake of getting that done, knowing that’s the easiest and cheapest way of taking the Knicks to the next level. If we got them and Iggy playing better and staying on the court, then we could at least be fighting for a playoff spot.

Can’t expect this to remain a rebuilding effort though. Thibs is 62 and will want instant results. I see RJ Mitch and Frank all being a big part with Thibs. Not sure about Knox or Iggy. There will only be room for 4 young players in the rotation tops.

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7/26/2020  10:32 AM
I cant wait for Thibs to be officially named the head coach and have an official interview as the head coach. I want to hear his honest opinion of the knicks' current roster, what he thinks about players like Knox, DSJ, Iggy and Dot. Was he clearly sold by the front office as a rebuilding team or a team who is actually looking for a spot in the play off next year. Answers to these questions will give us more or less a preview of the next steps the front office will take in the offseason.

I honestly hope that the front office hold on to Dot and see what he can do with some mentoring from Thibs. I do hope that all of last year's 1yr free agency signing except for Taj are not picked up. I hope the front office will still go for the slow burn approach. I know they want to hire Woodson and retain Miller, but i hope Thibs can still bring in 3 more assistants of his choosing. Im hoping one of them can be a very good offensive strategist.

Im happy with this hire as long as everyone(from the coaches to the fans to the new york media) have been briefed of the teams immediate goal for next year and the year after. Setting a realistic expectation to the new york media is key for this hiring to work. Even before the announcement, the media is expecting very high expectations for next year if the knicks hire Thibs. Here we are now! Those expectations are just flat out impossible to achieve and the new york media will surely make a spectacle out of it if the team just marginally improves. The Twolves made the playoffs on Thibs second year, a team that has Kat, Wiggins and Butler. The knicks are still far from that team at this point.

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7/26/2020  11:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/26/2020  11:25 AM
This is such a bad hiring that I’m still in shock. Every last facet of this hiring sucks point blank. When I first heard about the possibility I thought it was a legitimate joke. I guess jokes on us again
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7/26/2020  11:27 AM
BRIGGS wrote:This is such a bad hiring that I’m still in shock. Every last facet of this hiring sucks point blank. When I first heard about the possibility I thought it was a legitimate joke. I guess jokes on us again

I actually agree with you..... the five year contract being the biggest punch line

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7/26/2020  11:34 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I think first and foremost, the goal is to take RJ, Mitch and Frank to the next level. Possibly Knox too. I sincerely think Thibs was hired for sake of getting that done, knowing that’s the easiest and cheapest way of taking the Knicks to the next level. If we got them and Iggy playing better and staying on the court, then we could at least be fighting for a playoff spot.

I said it in another thread, the thing you like About RJ, Frank, mitch and Knox is they work. Fizdale despite bring a crappy coach, vouched for the work ethic of those players. Know it is up to thibs to progress them.

With a coach now, I'd still join the summer tournament for the non bubble teams and see first hand what he has, look at it like an open tryout for them and include guys like wooten

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7/26/2020  11:37 AM
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

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7/26/2020  11:42 AM
unstopaball12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

Yeah sounds like a good team. Bring back Melo to start 4 man. Give mortises all our cap space abd re up Gibson at 12 million!!!!

RIP Crushalot😞
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7/26/2020  11:45 AM
The Morris Brothers would fit with the type of player he likes
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7/26/2020  11:48 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

Yeah sounds like a good team. Bring back Melo to start 4 man. Give mortises all our cap space abd re up Gibson at 12 million!!!!

LOL you do realize that the knicks can decline the option of taj and resign him to a much lower deal?

Ill be clear, if Randle stays or we draft wiseman or toppin, I'll own sign 1 Morris, but if we trade Randle and draft a guard, I'd sign both twins.

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7/26/2020  12:11 PM
The only three players the Knicks are looking to draft in the lottery is Ball, Toppin, or Haliburton because they are CAA clients. If they do something else I would be really surprised.
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7/26/2020  12:20 PM
unstopaball12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

Yeah sounds like a good team. Bring back Melo to start 4 man. Give mortises all our cap space abd re up Gibson at 12 million!!!!

LOL you do realize that the knicks can decline the option of taj and resign him to a much lower deal?

Ill be clear, if Randle stays or we draft wiseman or toppin, I'll own sign 1 Morris, but if we trade Randle and draft a guard, I'd sign both twins.

I’d put 1000$ we trade all our picks.

RIP Crushalot😞
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7/26/2020  2:21 PM
wargames wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:This is such a bad hiring that I’m still in shock. Every last facet of this hiring sucks point blank. When I first heard about the possibility I thought it was a legitimate joke. I guess jokes on us again

I actually agree with you..... the five year contract being the biggest punch line

You guys posting the same thing over and over again doesn’t make it more true. Knicks locked up a good coach and he’ll make our players better build a team and work hard. Great hire. Stability and accountability and a great fit for RJ/frank/Mitch

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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7/26/2020  2:57 PM
Thibs and lamelo ball would hate each other for different reason. Lamelo ball and his father would hate thibs because he is going to tough on him and lamelo ball doesn't take tough and ruff approach well cries like a child. Thibs would hate lamelo ball drama with his family would find it childish and stupid . It wouldn't be a good match for thibs or ball family to come for nyc it would destroy this kid metal well being.
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7/26/2020  3:10 PM
All some of you can do is go backwards and think an experienced coach can only replicate what he has already done?
Jeff Teague? Melo? Like rose is laughing and enriching his CAA guys with no concern for winning?
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7/26/2020  3:27 PM
Nalod wrote:All some of you can do is go backwards and think an experienced coach can only replicate what he has already done?
Jeff Teague? Melo? Like rose is laughing and enriching his CAA guys with no concern for winning?

Don't people do that routinely when they get a new job? They only think about the last place the worked and kinda have that angle on their minds all the time?

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7/26/2020  3:27 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

Yeah sounds like a good team. Bring back Melo to start 4 man. Give mortises all our cap space abd re up Gibson at 12 million!!!!

LOL you do realize that the knicks can decline the option of taj and resign him to a much lower deal?

Ill be clear, if Randle stays or we draft wiseman or toppin, I'll own sign 1 Morris, but if we trade Randle and draft a guard, I'd sign both twins.

I’d put 1000$ we trade all our picks.

Can we get all the Tibs fanboys to agree that if we trade any picks/youth for Chris Paul or someone similar, that Rose is no different from Isiah, and nothing will ever change until Dolan is the former owner.

This to me will be telling. If the FO now makes trades for older players, trades picks or youth for similar. Is McDyss still available?

Does anyone think we're one piece away from being ready to go all in?

If we're smart and lucky and get FVV or someone cheap and reasonable, I think 8th is perhaps within range- but that needs there to be growth from our core players, and even then, this team is at a major talent deficit vs. the other top teams.

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7/26/2020  3:37 PM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Jeff Teague- thibs brought him in while running the Twolves. Seems like if the Knicks don’t go all in for VanVleet or trade for Paul and draft their future PG, Teague makes some sense as a cheaper trustworthy vet to pair with the rookie.

Carmelo - thibs is known to like him and he and Rose probably view him as a stretch 4 fit. Inevitable reunion.

Taj Gibson - almost a guarantee he’s brought back now, even at a lower price.

Ball or Haliburton - If they move up in the draft via ping pong balls or trade it will be for Ball, who’s a CAA guy. If they stay put and Haliburton is there he just makes a lot of sense. He’s known as a defensive high upside guard and has a rep as a good locker room presence/ hard worker. No doubt thibs struggled with Wiggins and towns because they aren’t known as hard workers. He shouldn’t have that problem with RJ and Mitch and also Haliburton if drafted.

As much as I love Melo, I'd go after the Morris twins to fill up our frontcourt position and bring back hark less and gibson

Yeah sounds like a good team. Bring back Melo to start 4 man. Give mortises all our cap space abd re up Gibson at 12 million!!!!

LOL you do realize that the knicks can decline the option of taj and resign him to a much lower deal?

Ill be clear, if Randle stays or we draft wiseman or toppin, I'll own sign 1 Morris, but if we trade Randle and draft a guard, I'd sign both twins.

I’d put 1000$ we trade all our picks.

Can we get all the Tibs fanboys to agree that if we trade any picks/youth for Chris Paul or someone similar, that Rose is no different from Isiah, and nothing will ever change until Dolan is the former owner.

I wouldn't consider myself a "Thibs Fanboy" but I agree with your statement regarding picks/youth.
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