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Knixkik
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7/23/2020  10:54 AM
It's definitely a weak draft at the top, no guaranteed stars here. Barrett would be the consensus #1 in this draft, along with Zion and Ja of course. We can't rely on finding a piece to build around. But with Barrett and Mitch in the fold, this draft seems to have the things we lack; quality PG depth and shooting depth. The goal should be to use our 3 picks to find role players that fit around our 2 most talented players;

Lottery shooters: Haliburton, Nesmith, Vassell.
Best fit: Haliburton, with Nesmith being a close 2nd. Haliburton is a 3&D combo guard that can probably start from day 1 as long as he's not relied on for too much playmaking. Seems destined to be a great fit next to a ball dominant wing. Barrett is a nice fit next to him on paper.

Mid first shooters: S Bey (a target only if we move up)

Late First shooters: D Bane, T Terry, J Ramsey
Best fit: I love Bane as a 3&D wing. Shot the ball well for 4 years at TCU. Major sleeper to develop into a high level role player.

Second round shooters: PG Pritchard, SG Joe, SF/PF Nwora, PF/C Tillie. All good fits from varying positions. All proven 3pt shooters.

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7/23/2020  11:28 AM
Man, don't forget Tyler Bey. He intrigues me with the LAC pick range. Better athlete than any of the other guys and bigger, almost a small forward. And the guy just gets after it, seems like a super high motor.

A little turn over prone but maybe at the next level he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much. Fierce rebounder too.

I don't know all of the guys you listed but he has got to be one of the better defenders, up there with Vassell.

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7/23/2020  11:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2020  11:46 AM
martin wrote:Man, don't forget Tyler Bey. He intrigues me with the LAC pick range. Better athlete than any of the other guys and bigger, almost a small forward. And the guy just gets after it, seems like a super high motor.

A little turn over prone but maybe at the next level he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much. Fierce rebounder too.

I don't know all of the guys you listed but he has got to be one of the better defenders, up there with Vassell.


Yes i have seen him play and i like him a lot. I was focusing more on the shooters in the draft specifically, but he's definitely a late 1st round prospect to consider.
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7/23/2020  12:01 PM
martin wrote:Man, don't forget Tyler Bey. He intrigues me with the LAC pick range. Better athlete than any of the other guys and bigger, almost a small forward. And the guy just gets after it, seems like a super high motor.

A little turn over prone but maybe at the next level he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much. Fierce rebounder too.

I don't know all of the guys you listed but he has got to be one of the better defenders, up there with Vassell.


When looking at these prospects, its important to look at what they may develop into as opposed to where they are right now. I love Beys tools and potential. He reminds me of Wilson Chandler when he was at DePaul.

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7/23/2020  12:09 PM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:Man, don't forget Tyler Bey. He intrigues me with the LAC pick range. Better athlete than any of the other guys and bigger, almost a small forward. And the guy just gets after it, seems like a super high motor.

A little turn over prone but maybe at the next level he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much. Fierce rebounder too.

I don't know all of the guys you listed but he has got to be one of the better defenders, up there with Vassell.


Yes i have seen him play and i like him a lot. I was focusing more on the shooters in the draft specifically, but he's definitely a late 1st round prospect to consider.

Yeah, definitely not a volume or pure shooter from outside but I don't really watch the college game at all and am just looking at stats and highlights. Wondering if he can hit the corner 3 at the NBA level or a wide open 3pointer, if so, maybe good enough with either late 20s pick or 38.

Not for nothing but hopefully Knicks are in draft position whereby Wiseman falls to them and another team like Charlotte would want to trade up for him using their #1 and the #32 pick. I'm not a fan of Wiseman and the Knicks could use that pick to scoop up another shooter.

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7/23/2020  12:24 PM
Not just the draft, but free agency is awash with 3pt shooters too- play our cards right and we can come out of this offseason with good 3pt shooters at every position.

Haliburton has good shooting stats but a lot of people seem to be saying his shot won't translate (I have zero scouting abilities, so I don't know if that's true)

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7/23/2020  12:50 PM
smackeddog wrote:Not just the draft, but free agency is awash with 3pt shooters too- play our cards right and we can come out of this offseason with good 3pt shooters at every position.

Haliburton has good shooting stats but a lot of people seem to be saying his shot won't translate (I have zero scouting abilities, so I don't know if that's true)

Cost. Draft a guy and you have him for 3-5 years at $6M or much much less. Sign Bertans and you are talking $10-$15M for 3-4 years.

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7/23/2020  1:10 PM
smackeddog wrote:Not just the draft, but free agency is awash with 3pt shooters too- play our cards right and we can come out of this offseason with good 3pt shooters at every position.

Haliburton has good shooting stats but a lot of people seem to be saying his shot won't translate (I have zero scouting abilities, so I don't know if that's true)

Here's the issue with his shot. It may not translate off the dribble. But he's a very good spot up shooter and great range and that will translate fine. The issue being whichever team drafts him has to be okay with him being a lead guard that isn't going to be deadly off the dribble shooting. He's a lead guard that will be a good off-ball shooter, which is why he's in the 5-8 range and not top 3.

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7/23/2020  1:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2020  1:14 PM
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Not just the draft, but free agency is awash with 3pt shooters too- play our cards right and we can come out of this offseason with good 3pt shooters at every position.

Haliburton has good shooting stats but a lot of people seem to be saying his shot won't translate (I have zero scouting abilities, so I don't know if that's true)

Cost. Draft a guy and you have him for 3-5 years at $6M or much much less. Sign Bertans and you are talking $10-$15M for 3-4 years.


I think being flushed with cash we should invest in 1 shooter in free agency. We have holes everywhere but center. It can be a PG like FVV, a wing like Joe Harris, or a stretch 4 like Gallinari. Obviously it comes down to cost. We will end up signing some 1 year guys i'm sure but we need at least 1 guy who fits that is part of the solution. We can't have a repeat of last summer. We ended up with zero long-term fits out of that group.
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7/23/2020  3:10 PM
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Not just the draft, but free agency is awash with 3pt shooters too- play our cards right and we can come out of this offseason with good 3pt shooters at every position.

Haliburton has good shooting stats but a lot of people seem to be saying his shot won't translate (I have zero scouting abilities, so I don't know if that's true)

Here's the issue with his shot. It may not translate off the dribble. But he's a very good spot up shooter and great range and that will translate fine. The issue being whichever team drafts him has to be okay with him being a lead guard that isn't going to be deadly off the dribble shooting. He's a lead guard that will be a good off-ball shooter, which is why he's in the 5-8 range and not top 3.

Thanks for clarifying that

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7/25/2020  8:15 PM
Knixkik wrote:It's definitely a weak draft at the top, no guaranteed stars here. Barrett would be the consensus #1 in this draft, along with Zion and Ja of course. We can't rely on finding a piece to build around. But with Barrett and Mitch in the fold, this draft seems to have the things we lack; quality PG depth and shooting depth. The goal should be to use our 3 picks to find role players that fit around our 2 most talented players;

Lottery shooters: Haliburton, Nesmith, Vassell.
Best fit: Haliburton, with Nesmith being a close 2nd. Haliburton is a 3&D combo guard that can probably start from day 1 as long as he's not relied on for too much playmaking. Seems destined to be a great fit next to a ball dominant wing. Barrett is a nice fit next to him on paper.

Mid first shooters: S Bey (a target only if we move up)

Late First shooters: D Bane, T Terry, J Ramsey
Best fit: I love Bane as a 3&D wing. Shot the ball well for 4 years at TCU. Major sleeper to develop into a high level role player.

Second round shooters: PG Pritchard, SG Joe, SF/PF Nwora, PF/C Tillie. All good fits from varying positions. All proven 3pt shooters.

good stuff. I’m really pumped to see how this org handles the draft and what kind of team Thibs runs out there. I suspect we add some veteran type(s) via some package of picks and young guys but still keel their own picks and keep Mitch frank and Rj as their young group as that looks like a good fit w Thibs to be honest. We’ll see. I have only guesses
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This draft is rich with shooters

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