- Russia has something in development and compared to the rest of the world, it is somewhere in phase 1 or 2.

- In other major countries, vaccine needs to pass phase 3. Because of the nature of this pandemic, lots of developed countries are cutting corners with phase 3

- If you don't understand the phases, go look them up.

- After somewhere between phase 1 or 2 of a Russian vaccine, Putin had a press conference equivalent to all of the other misinformation they put out and declared Russia has a vaccine.

- Every country out there is making deals with all of the major vaccine developers, this is commonplace

- To blindly state that "Russia has a vaccine" is overlooking the obvious

martin wrote:Let me summarize for all of the idiots out there who can't read articles properly:

- Russia has something in development and compared to the rest of the world, it is somewhere in phase 1 or 2.

- In other major countries, vaccine needs to pass phase 3. Because of the nature of this pandemic, lots of developed countries are cutting corners with phase 3

- If you don't understand the phases, go look them up.

- After somewhere between phase 1 or 2 of a Russian vaccine, Putin had a press conference equivalent to all of the other misinformation they put out and declared Russia has a vaccine.

- Every country out there is making deals with all of the major vaccine developers, this is commonplace

- To blindly state that "Russia has a vaccine" is overlooking the obvious

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:Let me summarize for all of the idiots out there who can't read articles properly:

- Russia has something in development and compared to the rest of the world, it is somewhere in phase 1 or 2.

- In other major countries, vaccine needs to pass phase 3. Because of the nature of this pandemic, lots of developed countries are cutting corners with phase 3

- If you don't understand the phases, go look them up.

- After somewhere between phase 1 or 2 of a Russian vaccine, Putin had a press conference equivalent to all of the other misinformation they put out and declared Russia has a vaccine.

- Every country out there is making deals with all of the major vaccine developers, this is commonplace

- To blindly state that "Russia has a vaccine" is overlooking the obvious

I assume your last two bullet points summarize the second article? I pity all those said idiots. Maybe they should read it for themselves.

You have anything relevant to add here? Cause I haven’t seen any of it

I was gonna post another article, but maybe we better just wait and let time put everything in its place. We will know about the safety of the vaccine soon enough.

smackeddog wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:Let me summarize for all of the idiots out there who can't read articles properly:

- Russia has something in development and compared to the rest of the world, it is somewhere in phase 1 or 2.

- In other major countries, vaccine needs to pass phase 3. Because of the nature of this pandemic, lots of developed countries are cutting corners with phase 3

- If you don't understand the phases, go look them up.

- After somewhere between phase 1 or 2 of a Russian vaccine, Putin had a press conference equivalent to all of the other misinformation they put out and declared Russia has a vaccine.

- Every country out there is making deals with all of the major vaccine developers, this is commonplace

- To blindly state that "Russia has a vaccine" is overlooking the obvious

I assume your last two bullet points summarize the second article? I pity all those said idiots. Maybe they should read it for themselves.

You have anything relevant to add here? Cause I haven’t seen any of it

I was gonna post another article, but maybe we better just wait and let time put everything in its place. We will know about the safety of the vaccine soon enough.

Not really, even with fully tested vaccine's you might not find out bad side effects for months or years. But at least fully tested ones flag up immediate problems. Why the hell would you skip mass testing?! Why do you think mass testing is not needed or wise?

Wait a second, the vaccine is going through the stages, right now it's entering stage 3 with 40,000 participants. I am not against it going through the testing, as all medications should.

I am against the misinformation that the vaccine is not safe. All's I am saying is we don't know yet. Nowhere did I say that's it's safe. I just said that it's premature to assume that it's not.

Here is what I said: Russia has a vaccine,time is needed to make sure it's good or if you want to be technical "the vaccine that Russia came up with so far is ahead in the vaccine race. They are in the latest stages of testing compared to the competition and so far the results are nothing but positive, however it's too early to call it a complete product because only administration of the vaccine among the larger population with repeat vaccinations over a long period of time can show if the immune response will be sustained."

If you think otherwise, go ahead and quote yourself. Russia is developing a vaccine, TBD on effectiveness and everything else.

At this point, if you can't keep track of what you yourself are posting on this topic, best just go silent on it.

ramtour420 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:Let me summarize for all of the idiots out there who can't read articles properly:

- Russia has something in development and compared to the rest of the world, it is somewhere in phase 1 or 2.

- In other major countries, vaccine needs to pass phase 3. Because of the nature of this pandemic, lots of developed countries are cutting corners with phase 3

- If you don't understand the phases, go look them up.

- After somewhere between phase 1 or 2 of a Russian vaccine, Putin had a press conference equivalent to all of the other misinformation they put out and declared Russia has a vaccine.

- Every country out there is making deals with all of the major vaccine developers, this is commonplace

- To blindly state that "Russia has a vaccine" is overlooking the obvious

I assume your last two bullet points summarize the second article? I pity all those said idiots. Maybe they should read it for themselves.

You have anything relevant to add here? Cause I haven’t seen any of it

I was gonna post another article, but maybe we better just wait and let time put everything in its place. We will know about the safety of the vaccine soon enough.

Not really, even with fully tested vaccine's you might not find out bad side effects for months or years. But at least fully tested ones flag up immediate problems. Why the hell would you skip mass testing?! Why do you think mass testing is not needed or wise?

Wait a second, the vaccine is going through the stages, right now it's entering stage 3 with 40,000 participants. I am not against it going through the testing, as all medications should.

I am against the misinformation that the vaccine is not safe. All's I am saying is we don't know yet. Nowhere did I say that's it's safe. I just said that it's premature to assume that it's not.

Here is what I said: Russia has a vaccine,time is needed to make sure it's good or if you want to be technical "the vaccine that Russia came up with so far is ahead in the vaccine race. They are in the latest stages of testing compared to the competition and so far the results are nothing but positive, however it's too early to call it a complete product because only administration of the vaccine among the larger population with repeat vaccinations over a long period of time can show if the immune response will be sustained."

ramtour420 wrote:I also said that I can understand why it's being rushed through the steps and I also see why it's politically desirable to announce such progress before it's finalized

ramtour420 wrote:Again, you can read it yourself. Yes it's a done deal the vaccine is there, yeas people are getting it and have been getting it for a month. That's the Russian way. Noone knows if it's safe only time will tell. So far it has passed everything. Martin I am not going to quote myself, that's silly and I don't see a point. Anyone whose reading comprehension is at an average level can read what I wrote for themselves.

This is not how we are going to do it. Thanks

Side note If I was Biden. During the debate I would bring up at least 100 times the Russian bounty on US troops. The fact that there hasn’t been a all out campaign on that up to this point is mind boggling.

TripleThreat wrote:Does anyone see the problem here?

Pretty much a guaranteed riot no matter who wins. Lots of untrained terrified people with guns. Highly organized rioters on one end. Heavily armed crews that look like paramilitary units on the other. Social media fueling the flames. Law enforcement conditioned at this point to just stay out of it and let cities burn to the ground.

The choice between two geriatric idiots. One, if he wins, might let these riots continue unchecked. The other, a failed Hollywood celebrity who treats running the country like a 2nd rate reality show.

I have a hard time seeing how this doesn't end in massive bloodshed.

Nov thru January is going to be wild. One of the 2 people you mention has the levers to manage this whole thing but won't (and is indeed stroking the unrest) and the other doesn't get power until end of January; no idea how you can frame that as letting the riots continue unchecked, that's not close to reality.

this debate told me that trump knows he is going to lose and will challenge the results. he will tell his racist army to voter intimidate and cause ruckus.

US is going to look like stock 3rd world footage from election night through christmas.

w/o a women there, there's no "he's putting her in her place" mysoginistic thoughts. what's left was a ranting raving racist lunatic screaming at an old white man.

this was engineered debate by trump.

i hope every single one of you that voted for him or abstained are self reflecting right now and not doubling down.