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ccinflushing
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5/9/2020  5:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/9/2020  6:27 AM
Thought this discussion between Keith Smith and Trevor Lane was really interesting .. salary cap at $100Mn or less for both 20/21 and 21/22 possible, cap smoothing, return of the amnesty clause?

that hire of Brock Aller might be useful in this brave new world and the Knicks could be in a great position to take advantage!

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5/9/2020  7:05 AM
ccinflushing wrote:Thought this discussion between Keith Smith and Trevor Lane was really interesting .. salary cap at $100Mn or less for both 20/21 and 21/22 possible, cap smoothing, return of the amnesty clause?

that hire of Brock Aller might be useful in this brave new world and the Knicks could be in a great position to take advantage!

Not going to lie an amnesty clause would make a CP3 deal a lot more reasonable.

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5/9/2020  8:33 AM
A John Wall / Blake Griffin / Andre Drummond/ Kevin Love amnesty superteam anyone?
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5/9/2020  12:49 PM
wargames wrote:
ccinflushing wrote:Thought this discussion between Keith Smith and Trevor Lane was really interesting .. salary cap at $100Mn or less for both 20/21 and 21/22 possible, cap smoothing, return of the amnesty clause?

that hire of Brock Aller might be useful in this brave new world and the Knicks could be in a great position to take advantage!

Not going to lie an amnesty clause would make a CP3 deal a lot more reasonable.

But an amnesty clause would drive up CP3's trade price (if OKC wanted to save money they'd just cut him- if they're trading him, they'd want something good in return, in addition to the saved money).

Next season is likely a disaster, followed by a huge drop in the cap. We should not, under any circumstances take on bad salary or do any 'win now trades'. I'd maybe try to take advantage if a team had to shed a good player with a big (but not CP3 big) salary.

This is bad for the near future of the nba, could take them many years to recover financially. Even once people can attend games, we'll likely be in the midst of a long, protracted recession so people will have a lot less money to spend. On top of that these lockdowns may have led to people permanently changing their viewing habits- no more cable or network tv, people might stick with streaming, which may make the next TV deal less financially lucrative.

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5/9/2020  1:45 PM
smackeddog wrote:
wargames wrote:
ccinflushing wrote:Thought this discussion between Keith Smith and Trevor Lane was really interesting .. salary cap at $100Mn or less for both 20/21 and 21/22 possible, cap smoothing, return of the amnesty clause?

that hire of Brock Aller might be useful in this brave new world and the Knicks could be in a great position to take advantage!

Not going to lie an amnesty clause would make a CP3 deal a lot more reasonable.

But an amnesty clause would drive up CP3's trade price (if OKC wanted to save money they'd just cut him- if they're trading him, they'd want something good in return, in addition to the saved money).

Next season is likely a disaster, followed by a huge drop in the cap. We should not, under any circumstances take on bad salary or do any 'win now trades'. I'd maybe try to take advantage if a team had to shed a good player with a big (but not CP3 big) salary.

This is bad for the near future of the nba, could take them many years to recover financially. Even once people can attend games, we'll likely be in the midst of a long, protracted recession so people will have a lot less money to spend. On top of that these lockdowns may have led to people permanently changing their viewing habits- no more cable or network tv, people might stick with streaming, which may make the next TV deal less financially lucrative.

Amnesty would be the only way I'd take CP3, imagine they use it to save money. Now he is a free agent and can get paid a reasonable amount to play for the Knicks or another team. I'm down for that.

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5/9/2020  2:21 PM
Amnesty means they teams have to pay him. What it does is cuts a team going into tax. Amnesty does not increase his trade value.
What it does is help the wealthy teams shed a player and sign a more productive one for the same money an not get taxed. Remember we did that with Billups who was owed 14mm, and we shed him, and turned around and signed Tyson for the same amount. Effectively it cost us 28mm to have Tyson that season. This was 10 years ago, it was a big deal and fans were like “Grunwald for exec of the year, “BRILLIANT!!”. Few teams have the juice to do that, knicks did!!
Issue is Pandemic reduces cap and hurts guys without contracts. Hurts the teams with big contracts surround them with a proper roster. Hurts us by reducing the cap space we built out for. We can sign a big name but then it limits supporting cast.
Anyone really want to pay CP3 43% off their cap?
OKC wants to move him? Gonna cost THEM not team trading for him! Those fracking mofo’s want to same money you gotta grease our pockets with picks otherwise suck it up.
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5/9/2020  3:06 PM
smackeddog wrote:
wargames wrote:
ccinflushing wrote:Thought this discussion between Keith Smith and Trevor Lane was really interesting .. salary cap at $100Mn or less for both 20/21 and 21/22 possible, cap smoothing, return of the amnesty clause?

that hire of Brock Aller might be useful in this brave new world and the Knicks could be in a great position to take advantage!

Not going to lie an amnesty clause would make a CP3 deal a lot more reasonable.

But an amnesty clause would drive up CP3's trade price (if OKC wanted to save money they'd just cut him- if they're trading him, they'd want something good in return, in addition to the saved money).

Next season is likely a disaster, followed by a huge drop in the cap. We should not, under any circumstances take on bad salary or do any 'win now trades'. I'd maybe try to take advantage if a team had to shed a good player with a big (but not CP3 big) salary.

This is bad for the near future of the nba, could take them many years to recover financially. Even once people can attend games, we'll likely be in the midst of a long, protracted recession so people will have a lot less money to spend. On top of that these lockdowns may have led to people permanently changing their viewing habits- no more cable or network tv, people might stick with streaming, which may make the next TV deal less financially lucrative.

Yeah you are right dark times are definitely ahead. During the call Silver said it would likely be a year before vaccines too. If we’re lucky that is the timeline cause that is lightning fast in the grand scheme of things.

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OT: Post Pandemic Free Agency & Salary Cap discussion

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