CrushAlot wrote:Nalod wrote:admittinly, he does move on from his mistakes. Problem is he makes new ones. He does get out of the way from the people he hires. But its the people he hires.
Perhaps a one with more a stronger hands on acumen would not have panicked into short term deals like Amare and the trade for Melo.
He does spend. I'll give him that.
Dolan has been a dick in and around MSG. No denying. Oak and more recently Spike has used that as an opportunity to further their own aganda.
Dolan I believe was charmed by Isiah.
Dolan really was enthralled by Phil. Dolans High powered friends arranged that marriage. Dolan did spend on the guy and it was a good idea. But it did not execute.
I think Amare was all on Walsh. Walsh traded a future first, his lottery pick from the previous draft, Craw and Zbo for cap space to get LBJ and a friend. He struck out and signed Amare to save face.
In regards to Meyer's comments he made some great points about Dolan stepping up for his players, Tyson, Trier, Mitch etc. Meyer also said that Dolan hires his basketball people and lets them do make the basketball decisions. Charley Rosen said the same thing when Phil was running things and after Phil was let go.
You have no proof about walsh. But your a reasonable well read person so lets break it down:
1. We know Dolan panics and does starphuchedly stupid things.
2. Who sets the agenda for the team? Did Layden? Who hired Isiah? Isiah might have been the idea guy but Dolan approved the MONEY.
3. Dolan was told to get rid if his Rasputin (Isiah) and hire Dolan. League mandate? Never confirmed but Dolan was tone deaf to Anucha case, backed the wrong horse and defended Isiah. He renewed Isiah's deal, then went to trial. Cost MSG $11,000,000 13 years ago. Not chump change.
4. If Dolan did not love the idea of Walsh, who was really in charge? Think historically, Think Layden does the 100mm Mcdyess deal? Think Dolan takes the hit to clear the deck for Lebron? Did Walsh have this amazing ability to lure big name money to Indy in his tenure there? Hell no, it was a build via the draft and good trades! Donnie did a great job for the Simon Family! Donnie was from NYC, but he was not Riley!!
5. Donnie was in a wheel chair and Dolan took control of the Lebron recruitment which by all accounts Knicks were not competitive. perhaps Amare was to be paired with Lebron? Was Bosh considered to come as well. That Wade in his prime was already in Miami was Riley trump card. Who set that agenda? The owner. Knicks had to eat salary. Owner makes that decision to create the cap.
6. WIth Amare in place, who falls over himself to get Melo? Dolan crawled over Donnie and publically took over the trade negotiations. Remember the nets were hot and Melo was ready to resign with them (This was documented last week).
I cannot look you in the eye and tell infatically that Donnie was NOT the architect. I understand we usually point to a GM or team President and when it goes awry they get fired and the blame falls on them. Often that is the case. In my thinking Layden was fired because he did not have the balls to do the Marbles trade which was on his desk when Isiah came in. Layden was clearing the deck for cap space, use picks for change, and rebuild. Who decides that? Neophyte Layden or his boss?? Then Dolan did like the residual from that and the boo's started. Isiah was a starphuck. Donnie was down with Donnie. He Rolls with Grunwald because Isiah was still in his ear. Thus, its dolan making the decisions. Isiah perhaps was in Dolans head about Amare? Maybe. Dolan Brings Back Mills, then a few months later steamrolls him with Phil. Phil had autonomy. Phil wanted to trade healthy KP. Dolan Fires him. Mills is back. I give Dolan credit he moves on. Not like Reinsdorf. If Blame must assigned Its not on Donnie. His history in Indy was not to starphuch. Dolan did these things pre Donnie, and after. Thats my take!!!
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