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BRIGGS
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4/20/2020  1:13 PM
What’s the hype for him coming back?
He was a partial Knick- played mote seasons and had much more success with Denver. We had 1 decent season with him. But other than that he was simply a good player passing through at a poor time. He was somewhat of a selfish player— not a big deal. Can the Knicks focus on building a solid team for once?
Please stay away from this dumb stuff that honestly means nothing to fans at all. Zero zilch Build a new team. Focus n future.
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He did a lot of 1 on 1 work with Randle last Summer. Now we see where that took us. Lol
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If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.
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4/21/2020  8:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2020  8:58 AM
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

+1
He's the only one to do anything approaching ANYTHING for this franchise in the last 20 years.

Chances are he stays in Portland anyway.
And one of Rose's initial moves is going to be bringing back Carmelo? Don't think so.

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Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

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BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

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BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

RIP Crushalot😞
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jrodmc wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

+1
He's the only one to do anything approaching ANYTHING for this franchise in the last 20 years.

Chances are he stays in Portland anyway.
And one of Rose's initial moves is going to be bringing back Carmelo? Don't think so.


This. He is in a great situation with a great coach. No reason for him to leave. Rose might do Melo a favor but I don’t think he chases him.
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BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

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BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

Lets be honest here, would you really care who's on the team if they were winning at a high level.

We only dislike players when we are losing a lot

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4/21/2020  12:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2020  12:01 PM
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?

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knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

Lets be honest here, would you really care who's on the team if they were winning at a high level.

We only dislike players when we are losing a lot

I don’t dislike any player. This franchise has sucked for 20 years. It’s time to look forward not back. Carmelo Anthony is a simple distraction to the process— we don’t need that?

RIP Crushalot😞
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4/21/2020  12:18 PM
The one thing Carmelo could’ve done for this franchise is to say hold the assets— I’m coming anyway. He didn’t do that.
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BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?

I don't know that Bernard deserves all the praise he gets. I watched him on one of the rewind games - the team won, he scored 50, but he was a black hole and tossed up some very melo like super contested shots.

He was an exciting player, especially the year he got hurt when the team sucked and he was the lone bright spot. But I think our memories gloss over some of the rough edges - and I think people probably feel the same about Melo.

But I don't see how we make sense for Melo next year - it seems like he still has enough in the tank to help a play off type contender. Maybe the year after when we have a bit more in the development pipeline, and we can use a solid vet to come off the bench for 10-15 minutes a game.

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BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?


Unless you're going to sing the praises of half a season of Mr. Wine Bath, tell me where the franchise was before Carmelo joined the team and what happened immediately afterwards? In terms of wins and losses. For three full seasons. With the additions of nothing but old flotsam and other random pieces of **** during that time. Hopefully you don't need a billionaire owner/bad guitar player to explain something like that to you.

I forget where Bob McAdoo was in the running for League MVP, set franchise records, won the division (without making anyone on the team any better), and lead the team in assists. Or singlehandedly dragged the team to the playoffs.

Maybe you could explain that to us all. I doubt it seriously, but please, carry on.

Love BK. Maybe you'd like to bring BK back instead?

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King was hear for less than 200 games over 3 seasons. He had a some great epic moments and a meaningful series.
He was 26 when he got here and had just made his first allstar team year before.

Melo for 7 and no meaningful games. Blame for Amare? Nope, but he wanted to be here and play with him. Did Leon teal him “you go to knicks after a big trade you are going to be “all alone”? Did he listen. I don’t know.
Melo want a honorary fair well tour on the bench? He should go play with Nets as a bench player. If they Better with him on the court then let him finish the game. They should be thinking championship and he could contribute.
Nalod has no hate for him but his best scenario is one that I would guess won’t be on the knicks unless we do some serious wheeling and dealing! With Nets formidable on paper next year I can see Dolan panicking again. I hope not. It usually does not work out when that happens.

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BRIGGS wrote:The one thing Carmelo could’ve done for this franchise is to say hold the assets— I’m coming anyway. He didn’t do that.
Owners were telling the players they were going to lock them out and rein in free agency. He wanted a deal under the old cba with the team he wanted to play for. Knicks pulled the trigger. Too bad about Moz. That pushed me over the top
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He had minor knee surgery that summer thus he had a player option if things went amiss. For him to have come via free agent would have been a bad business decision. What’s the worst you can say about melo, that he put business first?? Maybe one day Melo can do a 10 part series via ESPN on his career and tell us what happened and his thinking at the time.
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jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?


Unless you're going to sing the praises of half a season of Mr. Wine Bath, tell me where the franchise was before Carmelo joined the team and what happened immediately afterwards? In terms of wins and losses. For three full seasons. With the additions of nothing but old flotsam and other random pieces of **** during that time. Hopefully you don't need a billionaire owner/bad guitar player to explain something like that to you.

I forget where Bob McAdoo was in the running for League MVP, set franchise records, won the division (without making anyone on the team any better), and lead the team in assists. Or singlehandedly dragged the team to the playoffs.

Maybe you could explain that to us all. I doubt it seriously, but please, carry on.

Love BK. Maybe you'd like to bring BK back instead?

I’m not interested in bringing BK back. The whole theme of the post is to look forward and not back?
Jrod Bob McAdoo was as good or better than Carmelo Anthony in his prime. He also played on great great Lakers teams that won championships. He’s got more than 1 ring

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4/21/2020  2:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2020  2:19 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:The one thing Carmelo could’ve done for this franchise is to say hold the assets— I’m coming anyway. He didn’t do that.
Owners were telling the players they were going to lock them out and rein in free agency. He wanted a deal under the old cba with the team he wanted to play for. Knicks pulled the trigger. Too bad about Moz. That pushed me over the top

Gallo and chandler where injury prone, mosgov had a handful of good games, and you almost always will give up a 1st round for a all star.

we had to pull that trigger in order to try and keep up with the jones's

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