martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:
https://www.axisimagingnews.com/radiology-products/imaging-equipment/ct/ct-lung-injury-asymptomatic-carriers-covid-19

A high percentage of people infected by the virus behind the ongoing deadly COVID-19 pandemic—up to 45%—may never show symptoms of the disease, according to the results of a Scripps Research analysis of public datasets on asymptomatic infections.

The authors also conclude that the absence of symptoms may not imply an absence of harm. CT scans conducted on 54% of 76 asymptomatic individuals on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, appear to show significant subclinical lung abnormalities, raising the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection impacting lung function that might not be immediately apparent. The scientists say further research is needed to confirm the potential significance of this finding. 

Yes, and this is the scary part.

IDK, sending kids to school this Sept is still a very scary prospect

Assuming we get a new Pres. Wouldnt send kids back to school until at least a few months into a new administration. I know thats a stretch for a lot of families. Hard to believe schools will be properly funded to deal with this pandemic until Betsy Devos is given the boot.

Oxford coronavirus vaccine triggers immune response, trial shows

Early results also indicate vaccine is safe, raising hopes it could help end pandemic

Oxford University’s experimental coronavirus vaccine is safe and generated a strong immune response in about 1,000 people who volunteered to help trial it, researchers have said, raising hopes it could help end the pandemic.

The results published in the Lancet medical journal are preliminary, with the effect of the vaccine measured by the amount of antibodies and T-cells it generates in the blood of the volunteers – not in any response to the virus itself.

Large-scale trials have begun in Brazil and South Africa, however, where infection rates are still high and it will be possible to assess whether vaccinated individuals are less likely to get Covid-19 than others.

Ideally the vaccine would protect against any infection, but scientists already accept it may reduce the severity of the disease instead, meaning people would be less likely to become very sick and die.

The volunteers have been followed up for eight weeks so far after immunisation. It is not yet known whether the high level of antibodies generated will last for at least six months. There are also questions over whether it will work in older adults – flu vaccinations do not give as much protection to older people, whose immune systems function less well than younger people’s.

“The immune system has two ways of finding and attacking pathogens – antibody and T-cell responses. This vaccine is intended to induce both, so it can attack the virus when it’s circulating in the body, as well as attacking infected cells,” said the study’s lead author, Prof Andrew Pollard.

“We hope this means the immune system will remember the virus, so that our vaccine will protect people for an extended period. However, we need more research before we can confirm the vaccine effectively protects against Sars-CoV-2 infection, and for how long any protection lasts.”

Health secretary Matt Hancock said: “A safe and effective vaccine is our best hope of defeating coronavirus and returning to life as normal.

“We have some of our best scientists and researchers working on this, but members of the public have a vital role to play too. So I urge everyone who can to back the national effort and sign up to the NHS Covid-19 vaccine research registry to help find a vaccine as soon as possible.

“Every volunteer will be doing their bit towards finding a vaccine for Covid-19 that will have the potential to save millions of lives around the world and bring this pandemic to an end.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/20/oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-triggers-immune-response-trial-shows

It's already onto phase 3 trials in Brazil and South Africa (those countries were chosen due to their high virus rates), and also got the all clear to try a small study in which they directly expose vaccinated volunteers to the virus (this is risky/ethically controversial which is why it's done rarely, but can dramatically speed up the research process)

“Look,” the president said, “I take responsibility always for everything because it’s ultimately my job, too. I have to get everybody in line.”

I take responsibility always for everything because it’s ultimately my job, too. I have to get everybody in line

Donald Trump

Holy s***. Never thought I would see the day. Even as half assed as it comes off, didn't know he was capable of saying these words.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-takes-responsibility-over-140947022.html

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:
https://www.axisimagingnews.com/radiology-products/imaging-equipment/ct/ct-lung-injury-asymptomatic-carriers-covid-19

A high percentage of people infected by the virus behind the ongoing deadly COVID-19 pandemic—up to 45%—may never show symptoms of the disease, according to the results of a Scripps Research analysis of public datasets on asymptomatic infections.

The authors also conclude that the absence of symptoms may not imply an absence of harm. CT scans conducted on 54% of 76 asymptomatic individuals on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, appear to show significant subclinical lung abnormalities, raising the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection impacting lung function that might not be immediately apparent. The scientists say further research is needed to confirm the potential significance of this finding. 

Yes, and this is the scary part.

IDK, sending kids to school this Sept is still a very scary prospect

No way kids to school

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

https://www.axisimagingnews.com/radiology-products/imaging-equipment/ct/ct-lung-injury-asymptomatic-carriers-covid-19

A high percentage of people infected by the virus behind the ongoing deadly COVID-19 pandemic up to may never show symptoms of the disease, according to the results of a Scripps Research analysis of public datasets on asymptomatic infections.

The authors also conclude that the absence of symptoms may not imply an absence of harm. CT scans conducted on 54% of 76 asymptomatic individuals on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, appear to show significant subclinical lung abnormalities, raising the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection impacting lung function that might not be immediately apparent. The scientists say further research is needed to confirm the potential significance of this finding

Yes, and this is the scary part.

IDK, sending kids to school this Sept is still a very scary prospect

I'm just outside of Atlanta and we will be teaching digitally. Kids are back in August and the announcement was made this week. Pretty sure NY will be digital too. Probably wont announce util sometime in August.

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

https://www.axisimagingnews.com/radiology-products/imaging-equipment/ct/ct-lung-injury-asymptomatic-carriers-covid-19

A high percentage of people infected by the virus behind the ongoing deadly COVID-19 pandemic up to may never show symptoms of the disease, according to the results of a Scripps Research analysis of public datasets on asymptomatic infections.

The authors also conclude that the absence of symptoms may not imply an absence of harm. CT scans conducted on 54% of 76 asymptomatic individuals on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, appear to show significant subclinical lung abnormalities, raising the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection impacting lung function that might not be immediately apparent. The scientists say further research is needed to confirm the potential significance of this finding

Yes, and this is the scary part.

IDK, sending kids to school this Sept is still a very scary prospect

I'm just outside of Atlanta and we will be teaching digitally. Kids are back in August and the announcement was made this week. Pretty sure NY will be digital too. Probably wont announce util sometime in August.

My apologies, but what does digital entail?

gotta assume via Zoom and the like?

Which f’ing sucks but I guess we have to hope and pray for the best.

dodger78 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

https://www.axisimagingnews.com/radiology-products/imaging-equipment/ct/ct-lung-injury-asymptomatic-carriers-covid-19

A high percentage of people infected by the virus behind the ongoing deadly COVID-19 pandemic up to may never show symptoms of the disease, according to the results of a Scripps Research analysis of public datasets on asymptomatic infections.

The authors also conclude that the absence of symptoms may not imply an absence of harm. CT scans conducted on 54% of 76 asymptomatic individuals on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, appear to show significant subclinical lung abnormalities, raising the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection impacting lung function that might not be immediately apparent. The scientists say further research is needed to confirm the potential significance of this finding

Yes, and this is the scary part.

IDK, sending kids to school this Sept is still a very scary prospect

I'm just outside of Atlanta and we will be teaching digitally. Kids are back in August and the announcement was made this week. Pretty sure NY will be digital too. Probably wont announce util sometime in August.

My apologies, but what does digital entail?

gotta assume via Zoom and the like?

Which f’ing sucks but I guess we have to hope and pray for the best.

We did have a period of roughly 2,5 months of home schooling here in Germany... quite frankly it worked so-so... and showed a couple of things:
- the infrastructure in schools was NOT prepared for home schooling at all
- the burden for the parents is enormous since - if you want to do it right - you have to basically teach the kids as well quite a bit, correct the stuff, explain new content etc.
- home schooling does further widen the gap between the different social backgrounds - e.g. poor kids often times just do not have the means to participate fully (laptops, printer at home etc.) and lesser educated parents cant support as well
- I think there was too little attention payed on the social impact school has for kids... just setting up reguarl calls between the kids to simply talk outside of school topics would have been good I think - did not happen in our school
- also ... the whole topic was basically dealt with differently by every school. It does definately need a higher level organization that everybody has to follow!

BUT... it was the best way to deal with this I think... and it "only" was a short period of time - now the kids are back in school since roughly 1.5 months and everything seems okay so I assume we will be back to full normal in September when schools open again after summer break. That is of course if we can keep the low numbers of newly infected... :-/

Meanwhile, the US is back to square 1 of about late April as a whole country.

Our Fed gov't has this priority: Re-election, economy, everything to support #1 & #2.

I can see only a few handful of states being able to navigate schools opening prudently, and maybe a few fairly isolated circumstances will also prevail. By Oct (or soon depending on school opening) we will be back home again.

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